In fact, I had people very near-and-dear to me tell me to my face they think I'm weird for studying prophecy all these years, and they even openly questioned whether or not I get any enjoyment out of life (and enjoy my time spent with them and others) if I'm constantly watching and interpreting news headlines through my "prophecy goggles." Shocked, defensive, saddened, worried about them. That was my immediate reaction. Needless to say, it's been a challenging time to say the least.
However, I come to you today victorious and renewed in my effort to shout from the rooftops all the wisdom and knowledge that our Lord has led me to in my desire to get to know Him, His Word, and His prophecies better. What I mean to say is that in His mercy and grace He has answered my prayers to "help me better understand" by leading me to the work that was done by others in Christ. It is on their shoulders that I stand, ready to share their findings with the rest of you today. As you'll soon see, this is truth that needs to be shared with ANYONE AND EVERYONE before it's too late.
The answer to my prayer was in the form of a study that another did on the Book of Daniel. I was first told about this unique perspective from a few people months ago, but for whatever reason just filed this away in the "I'll-Definitely-Get-To-That-Later" file of things to do.
As with most things these days, I now know why I didn't feel a pressing need to examine and review this presentation until now. Simply put, we needed to advance a little farther along God's prophetic timeline before certain things asserted in this series made better sense. What I'm trying to say is that when God reveals things to His people it's funny how EVERYTHING just seems to fall into place, and all we have to do is watch and get out of the way. That's why I believe the "Ceres of Events" series we just looked at this week was important and necessary (part of our Lord's perfect timing) BEFORE we could add this piece of the puzzle to the mix.
Why is that? BECAUSE BOTH STUDIES INDICATE THAT THE FINAL 7 YEARS (DANIEL'S WEEK) ARE ABOUT TO BEGIN IN 2009/2010!!!
Now, before you write this off as just more "date-setting" I implore you to please take the time to review this for yourself before you automatically dismiss it because it is intensely profound. As Christians expecting His return, we have a responsibility to study such a claim to see if it can be verified.
The following is Part 1 of a 2 part series. My goal will be to summarize that ministry's findings here for you so that it's all in one place. In Part 2, I'll include the actual video lecture in case you prefer to listen to it instead of reading about it. Besides, the video presentation makes a much more compelling case since it includes so much more information and visual aids that I couldn't quite possibly do justice to here in this limited space. Either way, pull up a chair, pour yourself a cup of coffee, and find a place where you won't be interrupted because this demands our full attention.
GETTING STARTED - WHAT IS THIS "DISCOVERY" THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
In all honestly, it's not really a "discovery" per se at all, but more or less just a case of us applying what the Scriptures tell us quite plainly. I like to think of this as more proof of the "unsealing" that God told us about in the Book of Daniel in Daniel 12:4.
It's called "Daniel's Timeline" and it's a presentation that boldly proclaims that we can know the EXACT years of the Great Tribulation. Wow! The word "bold" doesn't seem to cut it, huh? Still, I was intrigued that I was drawn to revisit this subject now when I was just about to sit down and write a new commentary on the Seven Seals, Seven Trumpets, and Seven Bowl Judgments of the Tribulation. It was at that moment that I thought, "Wait a minute! I still haven't looked at that Daniel's Timeline thing! Maybe there's something there that I need to see to help me better understand what I'm trying to work out and understand here on my own."
Sure enough, as always, our God demonstrated to me once more (as if I needed further proof) that He is omnipotent and truly amazing with a capital "A," which sadly doesn't even begin to describe how great He really is.
The entire journey of discovery begins by reminding us of three very important pieces of Scripture:
Ephesians 5:6 - - "Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience."
Luke 12:56 - - "Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?"
Hosea 4:6 - - "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."
The full claim of this approach is that "Daniel's end time prophecies, Daniel's 70th Week, the Jubilee years, the Feasts of the LORD, The vision of Revelation 12, the 1290 and 1335 day counts, the Parable of the Fig Tree, the altar shut down, the abomination that makes Jerusalem desolate, and much more is explained showing how they all fit together revealing the exact years of the Great Tribulation. When the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob reveals His Truth, all the prophecy pieces just fall into place on their own..."
At this point, I'll admit that I was skeptical. I mean, this wasn't the first time I read about someone who claimed to have "finally figured out" the course of end times events and the return of our Lord. However, I'm always willing to consider such things because I know that "iron sharpens iron" (Proverbs 27:17), and as someone who loves Jesus Christ with all my being, I desperately want the cares of this world to come to an end, pass away, and for Him to finally come for those of us who are "praying to be counted worthy" (Luke 21:36); those of us fervently watching for and expecting His triumphant return on a minute-by-minute, day-to-day basis.
Traditionally, the Christian community has taken themselves completely out of the loop with the following mis-quote: “no man knoweth the day or the hour of the Lord’s return, not even the angels in heaven.” However, what the Lord really says in Matthew 24:35-36, is that Heaven and Earth will pass away, but of that day and hour knoweth no man nor the angels. This is after the Lord’s return and after His thousand-year reign. So, are we supposed to know or not?
There is proof that we should know, but He is not just going to plainly spell it out lest the wicked should understand. We also know there are absolutely no idle words in the Word of God. If, therefore, it is not meant for us to understand or know the time of His coming, wouldn’t all the verses with clues pertaining to the time of His return be counted as idle words?
Precisely! As you'll see in a moment, just the fact that we're being able to understand things that have been a mystery for centuries should be a HUGE CLUE to us that time is short and approaching the moment when all things will be finished!
UNDERSTANDING 30 FOLD, 60 FOLD, AND 100 FOLD
This entire interpretation and resulting timeline hinges on a teaching from Jesus Christ that we find in the Book of Matthew. Yeshua (Jesus Christ) taught about 30-fold, 60-fold, and 100-fold (Matthew 13:8) so a brief explanation of the term "100-fold" is necessary before we can continue moving forward.
Matthew 13:8 - - "But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold."
Some brought forth fruit, some 30-fold and some 60-fold and some 100-fold. This is the same as to say: Fruit (30-fold), More Fruit (60-fold) and Much Fruit (100-fold). Another is being baptized with Water (30), with the Holy Ghost (60), and with Fire (100-fold). Also we see the same pattern in the good (30), acceptable (60), and perfect (100-fold) will of the Father being done. A major example is the Tabernacle itself: the outer court (30), the inner court (60) and the Holy of Holies (100-fold). A final example is in the spirits of just men made perfect (Heb. 11:40). There was an Elijah of old (30-fold), then we know that John the Baptist (forerunner for the Messiah) also came in the spirit of Elijah (60-fold), and there is another Elijah that must come in this same spirit (100-fold fulfillment). This latter day Elijah, will also be a forerunner for the Messiah's return, turning the hearts of the fathers to the children (Luke 1:17).
There are many such examples of these same degrees of fulfillment in prophecy as well, thus the multi-layered fulfillment of Daniel 9:25, which we'll look at in a moment.
There were no 100-fold fulfillments until the Messiah was glorified and the veil was rent that separated the inner court (60-fold) from the Holy of Holies (100-fold) allowing us, through the work of the Son, that we might come before the Throne of God, the Holy of Holies (Hebrews 4:16).
The above photo is a picture of a very important historical document that bears record to the 100-fold fulfillment of prophecy. It is a special morning edition of the Eretz Israel - Palestine daily newspaper dated 11/30/1947 announcing the UN decision (UN Resolution 181) to establish a Jewish State, which brought forth the BIRTH OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL in 1948.
The ministry says that this is one of the critical pieces (and visual proof too) to understanding the Daniel's Timeline puzzle. Interestingly enough, the ministry echoes what we've highlighted here many times before when they assert that the other critical piece of the puzzle is an understanding of the Feasts of the Lord. More on that later. To find out how this 100-fold fulfillment ties into our generation, please continue reading.
WHAT IS DANIEL'S TIMELINE?
If you're anything like me then I know you must be hopping in your seat to get started to see if there's any truth to this whatsoever or if it's just more spiritual deception in these last days. I will say that I was happy to see the way in which the study began by openly stating that,
"By no means do we believe that anyone has the authority to change one jot or tittle of the of the written Word of God, nor do we practice it here at Daniel's Timeline. If God says it, He means exactly what He said. And yes, we’ve all heard man’s version of this before, along with one inaccurate prediction after another. However, it cannot be stressed enough that Daniel’s Timeline is the understanding of the precise course of events plainly given to Daniel the prophet describing the 'when' and 'what' of the end times; not only did the Lord Himself quote Daniel, but He also gave an admonishment for not knowing these times."
Amen! Surely, this demanded a closer look and that's just what I did although I wasn't ready to be blown away by this particular analysis and interpretation. I probably should have expected it though given the constant "Daniel's-Week-And-The-Tribulation-Is-Near!!!" theme that kept presenting itself this week no matter which direction I looked.
What is Daniel's Timeline? In the simplest terms, the prophecies in Daniel give the EXACT year sequence of Tribulation. Applying the other prophecy reveals the years. Daniel’s Seven Year Prophetic Week begins in 2010, the Midst of the Week is in the Spring of 2013, and the end of the week is in the fall of 2016 at the Feast of Trumpets, the Last Trump.
As mentioned, as with most new revelations being "unsealed" in these last days, this one is also intricately connected to an understanding of the Feasts of the Lord.
Daniel 9:23 - - "At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision."
The Daniel's Timeline ministry writes this on their website: "The simplicity is astonishing. We are going to read it just like it literally is presented, and apply it to a graph. Beginning with Daniel 9:24 we will plot each verse individually. Daniel is now told that 70 weeks are given to make an end of sin and to anoint the most Holy. With both accomplished, (1) no sin and (2) the Most Holy anointed, it can only mean one thing; from some type of a starting point there is a 70 week period until God’s rest starts."
And so we have a formulaic description of their approach to this study, which reveals some unbelievably eye-opening discoveries!
Daniel 9:24 - - "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."
Verse 24 may be one of the most sought after verses to understand in the Scriptures. Men have tried to apply this in all kind of ways hoping that it would reveal its secret. Maybe it just wasn’t in God’s timing for it to be understood before now, because the literal understanding of what it really describes is very plain. The word "weeks" was translated from the Hebrew word Shabuwa meaning "a period of Seven" and also "Feast of Weeks," one of the seven Feasts of the Lord:
SHABUWA (shaw-boo'-ah); Noun Masculine, Strong #: 7620: seven, period of seven (days or years), heptad, week; Feast of Weeks (Shavuot)
In the original Hebrew, Shabuwa is in plural form; meaning FeastS of Weeks rather than only one Feast of Weeks. This verse reads: “Seventy Shabuwas or Shavuots are determined.” Shavuot is one of the Feasts called “The Feast of Weeks” (known as Pentecost in the Christian churches). There is only one “Feast of Weeks” per year. To extend the clarity to the fullness of the verse, it literally reads, “Seventy Feasts of Weeks” (or 70 Years) are determined from some starting point unto God’s Rest.
Now that we have verse 24 plotted correctly, we simply continue to the next verses in the Daniel sequence and plot all of them all to understand. In verse 25 we are told that from the going forth of a commandment to restore will be seven week, threescore and two (69 Years) unto the Messiah. Now God has now revealed the starting point is a commandment to restore Jerusalem. From the time this commandment is given to restore until the Messiah’s return will be a total of 69 years:
Daniel 9:25 - - "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times."
Next, in verse 26, Daniel is told from this same starting point (commandment to restore) the years will come and go until 3 score and 2 weeks have passed (62 years). Sometime after this 62 year period has passed, the sanctuary will be destroyed by the prince of the people (the Antichrist). Notice the period left from the 62 year marker to the 69 year marker just happens to leave a remaining 7-year period!Daniel 9:26 - - "And AFTER threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined."
This means the difference between the 62 year prophecy and the 69 year prophecy shows us the beginning of a 7 year period that is known as Daniel’s prophetic week. In the midst of this prophetic week (7 year period) two major things happen as recorded in verse 27 below; he, the Antichrist, will cause the altar to be shut down and the abomination that makes Jerusalem desolate:
Daniel 9:27 - - "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
Thus, the Temple DOES NOT have to be completely rebuilt to fulfill the Daniel 9:27 prophecy. If a corner stone is set, the court can be measured to establish the location of the altar. Then, with the altar up and operating, this prophecy is satisfied. This was the same procedure used to rebuild the Temple in ancient times too! The walls were restored AFTER the altar was operating!
LET'S TAKE THINGS A STEP FURTHER...
My mind is still numb from this latest find, but my eyes widened and I lost my breath for a moment when I continued with their presentation.
Now that we have the whole Daniel “Week” prophecies plotted in a chart form, all that is necessary is to discern what the starting point is. Jesus Christ referred to Daniel concerning the latter days. He said when we see the abomination of spoken by Daniel, for those who are in Judea to flee into the mounts, for then shall be Great Tribulation (Matthew 24:15-16; Matthew 24:20-21).
Jesus spoke of the Fig Tree Parable and a generation that will not pass. Most everyone on this planet who dabbles with end times prophecy just a bit knows the fig tree is Israel. The proponents of this eye-opening interpretation hold that one generation is an average of 70 years, and not 40 years as is erroneously believed. They point out that it's because the average age of those who were afraid to go to war and take the Promised Land was about 30 years old, plus 40 more years for that generation to die in the wilderness, which obviously equals 70 years (Matthew 24:32-34).
We take that info and apply it to what we already looked at. Remember our look at the teaching of 30-fold, 60-fold, and 100-fold? If we apply this teaching to this point of the study, then just as written in Daniel 9:25, it's the SPOKEN commandment that starts the 70 year count! In that sense, that verse was actually fulfilled of God on November 29, 1947 when the UN declared (UN Resolution No. 181) that the fig tree nation, Israel, was to be restored as a nation again, which eventually came to pass in 1948. Now just fill in the years:
Remember that image included in this column of that newspaper article announcing the UN Resolution that God would use to establish the nation of Israel? This is a VERY IMPORTANT historical document that bears record to the 100-fold fulfillment of Daniel 9:25, saying "from the going forth of the commandment (NOTE: the spoken word, not when it physically occured in 1948) to restore Jerusalem, unto the Messiah, shall be seven weeks threescore and 2 weeks (NOTE: 69 years)"; and also the Parable of the Fig Tree spoken of by our Lord in Matthew 24:32-34 saying "this generation will not pass till all be fulfilled."
The ministry does a fantastic job of using the Bible to prove the Bible. To illustrate another example, just turn to Ezekiel. He was commanded by God to lie on his side for 390 days (one day for each year pertaining to the exile of Israel). God said He would give Israel 7 times punishment if they refused to obey. This gives a total of 2730 years (390 x 7). Israel was carried away captive to Assyria in 720 BCE. From 720 BCE, to 2730 years later, brings us right back to the year 2010 as shown on the Daniels Timeline!!!
Want more? Consider the Jubilee years (one Jubilee = 50 yrs). God said in Genesis that He would not strive with man forever because he is yet flesh, saying that man’s days shall be 120 years. (One Jubilee X 120 Jubilees = 6000 years). From Adam (around 4000 BC) to the present day (2000 AD) also equals 6000 years! God told us in Psalms and in Peter that one day is as 1000 years. God creating everything in six days and resting on the seventh day, it is the same as to say, after six-1000 year days (or 6000 years), He will also rest on the 7th-1000 year day (1000 years) - - called the Millennium Rest!
The last three Jubilees were...
1867: The final emancipation of the Jews in Austria and Hungry
1917: The 400 year Ottoman rule ended - - Balfour Declaration
1967: The Six Day War - - Jerusalem was re-united
2017: ???
It's pretty easy to figure out the next Jubilee year (1967 + 50yrs = 2017!!!). Surprise, surprise as this matches perfectly to what we looked at about how to interpret the timeline given to us in the Book of Daniel! We are at this threshold today, approaching the 120th Jubilee year (6000 years), the time of the restitution of all things.
Acts 3:19-21 - - "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."
Remarkably, this is only the tip of the iceberg! The next part of this series will provide you with the full video presentation, which should help to crystallize all of this for you. I'll admit that I'm still trying to verify every single aspect of it for myself (because of what it could mean for us), but I've verified enough to know that this was something that had to be shared with all of you right away.
OTHER RECENT DISCOVERIES SEEM TO SUPPORT THIS FINDING!
Let's be honest for a moment. Trying to force the prophecy pieces into place ALWAYS leaves one with loose ends that NEVER really fit. When God reveals His truth to us, ALL THE PIECES just seem to fall into place all on their own! That being said, I think it should be clear that that's what we're dealing with and experiencing here. Again, if I didn't do a good enough job trying to summarize it all here in written form I strongly encourage you to at least watch the video presentation in Part 2 before you make a final judgment.
What truly amazes me about all of this is the fact that this isn't the only ministry to have had the truth revealed to them in such an independently verifiable way so that anyone can test this spirit for themselves and see that it can be trusted.
I want to call your attention to a series I wrote back in November called "Rethinking The Rapture." What is especially enlightening about that series today in light of this latest revelation is that there was one major aspect of that series that independently supports these claims here.
Remember Pastor Mark Biltz? He was the one who, after reading the story published by WorldNetDaily about NASA and the Blood Red Moons, began to study whether or not an end times timeline could be established (although his focus was more on the timing of the Rapture). Simply put, Biltz discovered that sets of lunar eclipses falling on Jewish holidays spanning 600 years from 1493 to past 2100 happened only three times! They are in 1948 (the year of the physical birth of Israel as a nation again), in 1967 (when Jerusalem was captured), and they will be in 2015 (???)!
If we factor in the astronomical tetrad in the years 2014-2015 as discovered by U.S. Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries (for only the third time in 2000 years, there will be a succession of total lunar eclipses on the feasts of Passover and Tabernacles in these Jewish years, including unusual solar eclipses!) then we find that it all seems to point to the same timeline with 2015/2016/2017 being very significant prophetically speaking!
In addition, I just received the book so I haven't read it yet, but some are saying that David Flynn's revolutionary new book (that claims to have deciphered Isaac Newton's Unified Field Theory of Bible prophecy!) also points to a very similar timeline except he identifies mid-July 2009 as being the start of Daniel's Week (the final 7 years), which would take us to 2016 also!!! So, we have yet another independent source that also points to the same timeframe!!!
Some will respond to this and some will not. As you decide (personally, I think it's VERY EASY to see the exciting truth in all of this), in prayerful consideration, please ask: “Why would anyone decline to know all they can about our Lord’s very near Second Coming, or worse, prevent those who do?”
CAN THIS BE TRUSTED? HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS LEGIT?
Believe me, this is ALWAYS a major concern of mine even when I'm about to hit the "Publish" button to post one of my "off-the-wall" assessments of how I see prophecy unfolding before my very eyes. Yet, I can say with confidence that this completely struck a chord within me, and I'm feeling a full range of emotions at the thought that this general consensus that "We're-On-The-Cusp-Of-Daniel's-Week-And-The-Tribulation!" is there for this very reason - - because we are, and God wants us to be prepared, and to tell the world about it!!!
Yes, we’ve all heard man’s version of this before, along with one inaccurate prediction after another. However, it cannot be stressed enough that Daniel’s Timeline is the understanding of the precise course of events plainly given to Daniel the prophet describing the “when” and “what” of the end times; not only did the Lord Himself quote Daniel, but He also gave an admonishment for not knowing these times. We use the Bible to prove the Bible.
Let's take a quick look at the admonishment from our Lord for not seeing the obvious...
Luke 12:56 - - "Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?"
Let's take a quick look at how God says that the secrets will be revealed, and that nothing is secret that shall not be made known...
Luke 8:17 - - "For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad."
Let's take a quick look at how God says that we will be shown these things before they come to pass...
Revelation 22:6 - - "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."
Amos 3:7 - - "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
That's some compelling evidence. It also reminds me a lot of something else God told us in the Bible. And what do you know!?! It comes to us from the Book of Daniel as well:
Daniel 12:4 - - "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."
So, as prophecies are attached to the correct understanding of "Daniel’s Timeline," mysteries that have been hidden right out in plain sight for thousands of years start revealing themselves, and this will be a hallmark of the end times. When God reveals His truth, all the prophecy pieces just fall into place on their own.
Despite my belief that this exciting discovery can be trusted, you would be wise to take all of this in prayer to our Lord, and ask Him for the discernment on this critically important issue. In the meantime, let's also be wise to take into consideration what He already told us:
Revelation 3:3 - - "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."
RECOMMENDED READING:
Rethinking The Rapture (Part 1)
Rethinking The Rapture (Part 2)
Rethinking The Rapture (Part 3)
Rethinking The Rapture (Update)
"They All Slumbered And Slept..."
FLASHBACK: "They All Slumbered And Slept..."
The Greatest Discovery Of Our Time?
The Precision of Prophecy: Daniel's 70th Week
28 Comments:
JRED, don't let the nonbelievers or those who believe but discount the importance of prophecy, get you down. The more we encounter this, the closer we'll be outta here. The best way to deal with it is to simply avoid those people and try and socialize with only those who share your interests, or at the very least socialize with those who won't belittle your beliefs
I especially like your comment "There is proof that we should know, but He is not just going to plainly spell it out lest the wicked should understand" and here's why...
In his Olivet discourse, the answer Christ gave to his disciples when he was asked why he spoke the way he did (in parables, etc.) in the book of Matthew 13:10-16 could have easily been paraphrased more clearly as "so that the damned won't get it" or as you state above, "lest the wicked understand"
Daniel's Timeline may also be a dual prophecy. When calculated the way Sir Robert Anderson did it, it comes out to the exact day of Christ's triumphal entry. When you calculate it the way it's mentioned in the Daniel's Timeline video series (which seems more scripturally supported) it takes us to the exact day of his second coming. It confirms the scripture (Isa 46:10) the video cited about God saying "Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done...". It's amazing!
What shocked me was when I went to Blueletter Bible online (to research it) and looked up the word "weeks" and it said Feast of Weeks which is Shavuot and occurs only once a year. So for the second prophecy of Daniel's 70 weeks, it means literally 70 years. And not only is 70 years mentioned in the bible as a generation, there is scripture that effectively says that this generation that sees the rebirth of Isreal (per the commandment to restore and build which was 11-29-1947 and not the 1948 date) will be the last. And when you read about Feast of Weeks or Shavuot, it's even more convincing. Unbelievable!
It's also amazing that almost everybody has always used the May 14, 1948 date, but that was not the commandment to restore date, that was just the date Israel decided to use to commemorate the birth of their country. That's a big oversight I think alot of people have missed.
Now if we could only verify and reconcile the 6,000 years with the birth or death of Jesus Christ, we'd have it almost totally figured out. By that, I mean I'm not sure there is supposed to be 6,000 years from Christ's birth or death. I know that the constellation alignments and more shown in the Star of Bethlehem movie seemed to prove Christ died on April 3 of 33 AD, but there are others who have an exact date seemingly supported by scripture showing a date in the year 31 AD. If knowing the 6,000 years is based on either the birth or death of Christ could be scripturally shown, and reconciled with the date of this Daniel's Timeline, then I would be super-hyped.
I've barely started reading your Part 1 post on this, but plan to read and comment more over the next few days and weekend.
ATTY,
I'm still in awe over all of this and thank you for being the one to originally bring it to my attention.
These are some truly amazing and exciting times we're living in aren't they? The revelations are coming daily now it seems and I can't process them all. I feel like saying, "Yes Lord! I know! I've always believed! I get it!" but I know that this new info is more for those who are still on the fence than it is for us.
Sure, these are the types of things that help strengthen our faith and make us bolder in sharing it with others, but I think the sheer simplicity and clarity to all of this, a person would have to be in complete denial to look at these things logically and still dismiss them as nothing. In that sense, that's another reason why I feel time is VERY short b/c it's almost as if this is His last call to the lost (like He's saying, "What more do I have to do to get your attention and prove this to you!?!")
Thanks again.
In Christ,
Jeff (JRed)
Ooops, when I said "Now if we could only verify and reconcile the 6,000 years with the birth or death of Jesus Christ,..."
I meant to say "Now if we could only verify and reconcile the 6,000 years with the birth or death of Adam to 2017.
We're living in very exciting times and I agree JRED, the hints from God are coming fast and furious. I think those of us who are watching are blessed with being able to see these things for what they are.
Great stuff JRED. Thank you for this website. I've been alerting several of my friends to it.
I do have a question about the 70 weeks prophecy that I was wondering if anyone can help out with. It does not look like the part where it says "the Messiah will be cut off" has been explained as it relates to our days. How will (might) this happen in the next year or so?
I contacted Dewey at Danielstimeline.com and asked him the quesition I posed you.
In short, he said that that verse speaks of the cutting off of the covenant. The antichrist confirms a covenant with many for seven years and sets out to destroy the people of God's covenant. Many "of the body of Christ" will be "cut off" from the head. The apostasy, the falling away, the breaking of the covenant - cut off.
Makes sense...
I've read the two-part series on Daniel's Timeline (and watched the videos) - good stuff, JRed, thanks for bringing this to us. And don't let it get to you that folks think you spend too much time in prophecy. I've been accused of the same - but these days, now SOME people don't think I'm such a nut. I don't have as much time to write as you do, but I am keeping up on my reading. Keep up the great work!
Wow, I just found out that a pastor has in fact calculated the 6,000 years based on genealogies and other time benchmarks found in the bible and if this guy's analysis is correct, it matches up exactly with the Daniel's Timeline video series. The link is at
http://s4ctroops.com/_wsn/page5.html
I also recommend watching his videos at
http://www.youtube.com/user/s4ctroops
because there is at least one or more golden nuggets of information in each of them that I had not heard before.
JRED,
Thanks for the Timeline update! Last week sometime I started in again-going through timelines, the seals & when/what exactly constitutes "The Day of the Lord."
In addition to that - I can tell you from the Christians I know-the spiritual attacks & warfare have kicked up a notch this year. Fortunately, the Pastor of our Church loves Bible Prophecy so I'm in good company in that regard.
If you have not watched Perry Stone's Manafest program #435 called:The Prophetic Significance of the Ingathering of the 7 Fruits. it's worth a view.
Maranatha-I have my shofar waiting again for Rosh Hashanah this year & the next-until He comes.
(Hello-ATTY!)
Blessings,
Lisa
Hello Late Night Lisa : )
How's everybody at the cave?
Late Night Lisa and others.
I watched that Perry Stone video. There's more prophetic meaning to the barley, wheat and grape harvests than many might realize per this link...
http://tribulationmyths.com/?cat=21
What are the main harvest seasons in Israel? The first harvest begins at Passover. It is the barley harvest. Barley and wheat are planted at the same time, but the barley ripens first. The first fruits of the barley harvest are waved at Passover. Barley is a soft grain. It is easily separated from the chaff by a process called winnowing. The Barley is caught up with a winnowing fork and thrown into the air. The chaff blows away and the barley is left.
This is a picture of the church. Those of us that have surrendered to Jesus during the church age are barley. Our hearts are soft toward God and we accept Him easily. Our harvest time began at Passover when Jesus was resurrected as the first fruits of salvation. Jesus fed the 5000 with barley loves and instructed his disciples to collect the remaining pieces so that nothing would be lost. We Christians will be collected at the end so that none are lost, but first we must be broken to feed the multitude. Our harvest time lasts until Pentecost when the wheat harvest begins. Just like the barley harvest, our harvest ends and a new harvest begins at Pentecost. At Pentecost, the first trump sounds and the barley harvest of Christians is finished. We are caught up into the air and separated from the chaff.
The second harvest in Israel is the wheat harvest. The wheat harvest begins at Pentecost. Wheat is a hard grain. It is not separated by winnowing like the barley. It must be threshed or beaten to separate the wheat from the chaff. This is a picture of the Tribulation Saints. They will be too hardened to go in the first rapture that takes place at the first trump on Pentecost. Jesus allows them to be beaten by the Antichrist until the harvest is separated from the chaff.
When they separated the wheat from the chaff, they used a board which they stood on while an animal pulled them over the wheat separating the grain. That board is called, in Latin, a ‘tribulum’ from which we get the word, ‘tribulation’. There is NO ‘tribulum’ used at Passover through Pentecost with the barley harvest. This harvest too ends and eventually a new harvest begins at Rosh Hashanah. At Rosh Hashanah the last trump sounds and it is time for the last harvest.
The final harvest in the fall is the grape harvest. The grapes must be crushed to harvest the wine. This represents those that will accept Jesus during the time of the trumpet judgments. They will be crushed but those that hang on will be the ones who repopulate the millennium. The grape harvest is over by Tabernacles.
There are three main harvests, barley, wheat and grapes. In each of the harvests there are three stages. The first stage is the first fruits. Jesus was the first fruit of the church age. Then comes the main harvest which has taken place over the centuries since the Resurrection. Finally there is the gleaning where the last remaining portion of the crop is gathered. We are in the gleaning phase now. Don’t be hard like wheat and miss out on the barley harvest. You don’t want to be threshed.
BTW, the videos at the following link by Dr. Renald Showers perfectly corroborates the above in the sense that the rapture is pre-trib, and that the scripture in Revelation cited by post tribbers to support their view is something different.
http://tinyurl.com/dednfk
After finding that site at http://s4ctroops.com/_wsn/page5.html in which a Pastor Sandy Armstrong calculated the 6,000 years of creation using genealogies and other time benchmarks found in the bible that matches the 6,000 years ending in 2017 from the Daniel's Timeline video series, I decided to look for additional proof that the 6,000 years of creation started in 3983 BC.
Here's what I found. On page 95 of the book at this link http://www.biblestudents.net/library/truebiblechronology.pdf which was first published in 1971 and well before the year 2017 was widely discussed as a possible date for the return of Christ, there is shown selected systems of bible chronology. The system with the furthest out date is the Jewish Calendar, but it's well documented that the Jewish Calendar is off by over 200 years and interestingly enough, many think it's off by 240 years as does J.R. Church (http://prophecyinthenews.com/articledetail.asp?Article_ID=156).
However, out of the eleven systems of bible chronology cited on page 95 of the above referenced book, the system with the most interesting bible chronology was by a Jesuit theologian by the name of Dionysius Petavius who lived from August 21, 1583 to December 11, 1652. He calculated the 6,000 years of creation from 3983 B.C. to 2018 A.D. Does this corroborate the Daniel's Timeline theory that states the seven year tribulation begins within the next 24 months? We'll soon see.
I went to Daniel's Timeline Website and checked out his views on the rapture. He doesn't believe in a pre-trib rapture. His article is worth noting:
http://www.danielstimeline.com/rapture.htm
I'm still not sold either way 100%. I have heard interesting arguments on both sides. Can anyone explain to me what scriptures solidify their position on a pre-trib rapture? Just curious. The only scripture that makes me wonder is Luke 21:36...
Petros,
I get what you're saying, and please stay tuned this week because my next series of articles will begin with a look at the Rapture, and I think you'll definitely want to see that b/c the information I'll present made a convinced me.
Also, I'm of the opinion that perhaps there's a reason why mention of the Rapture wasn't a major part of his presentation. Personally, I think that it would've distracted us from the main focus and intent, which was to demonstrate simply that we could know the timing of the sequence of events that make up Daniel's 70th Week. The key was understanding the beginning, middle, and end of it all. The Rapture is a big part, don't get me wrong, but an overlapping one if that makes any sense.
In any event, without giving too much away just yet, the pieces I'm working on should reconcile all of this (at least it did for me).
In Christ,
Jeff (JRed)
Petros, until recently I was open minded about pre-trib versus pre-wrath or post-trib, but in the last few weeks I discovered some things that have me convinced it's pre-trib, but I'll wait to post about it till after JRED puts up his new thread on the rapture : )
The NEWEST Pretrib Calendar
Hal (serial polygamist) Lindsey and other pretrib-rapture-trafficking and Mayan-Calendar-hugging hucksters deserve the following message: "2012 may be YOUR latest date. It isn't MAYAN!" Actually, if it weren't for the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised pretribulation rapture bunco scheme, Hal might still be piloting a tugboat on the Mississippi, roly-poly Thomas Ice (Tim LaHaye's No. 1 strong-arm enforcer) might still be in his tiny folding-chair church which shares its firewall with a Texas saloon, Jack Van Impe might still be a jazz band musician, Tim LaHaye might still be titillating California matrons with his "Christian" sex manual, Grant Jeffrey might still be taking care of figures up in Canada, Chuck Missler might still be in mysterious hush-hush stuff that rocket scientists don't dare talk about, John Hagee might be making - and eating - world-record pizzas, and Jimmy ("Bye You" Rapture) Swaggart might still be flying on a Ferriday flatbed! To read more details about the eschatological British import that leading British scholarship never adopted - the import that's created some American multi-millionaires - Google "Pretrib Rapture Diehards" (note LaHaye's hypocrisy under "1992"), "Hal Lindsey's Many Divorces," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)" and "Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)," "LaHaye's Temperament," "Wily Jeffrey," "Chuck Missler - Copyist," "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg" and "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)," "X-Raying Margaret," "Humbug Huebner," "Thieves' Marketing," "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "The Real Manuel Lacunza," "Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers," "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," "Dolcino? Duh!" and "Scholars Weigh My Research." Most of the above is written by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has focused on long-hidden pretrib rapture history for 35+ years. No one else has focused on it for 35 months or even 35 weeks. MacPherson has been a frequent radio talk show guest and he states that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit group and not to any individual. His No. 1 book on all this is "The Rapture Plot" (see Armageddon Books online, etc.). The amazing thing is how long it has taken the mainstream media to finally notice and expose this unbelievably groundless yet extremely lucrative theological hoax!
To: The March 20, 2009 post by anonymous at 1:26 am in the morning.
My advice to you. Don't post on any blogs after binge drinking and doping it up all night.
You are a very sad specimen of a person who has nothing to add to this discussion, and very likely has nothing to add to anything else in life as well.
Jred, I know you want to allow an open forum, but you have your blog set to "moderated" which generally implies a willingness to moderate and block nuts like the one who posted above. This person's commentary adds nothing to the discussion and he appears hell-bent on attacking the flock.
"If" this guy thinks he's Christian, I'm confident he represents the new-age version of the Church that the bible said would exist in the end times. So for that reason only, it's good that you allowed the post, but for the future, you need to moderate your blog and keep the wolves out lest they chase away the flock.
Petros asked if people could share verses that solidify their pre-trib rapture position. The one (of several) that does it best for me is Gen.18:23-32, where Abraham challenges God on His plan to wipe out Sodom. Here's what he says: "Wilt Thou indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? Suppose there are fifty righteous within the city; wilt Thou indeed sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous who are in it? Far be it from Thee to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike. Far be it from Thee! Shall not the Judge of all the earth deal justly?"
And of course we know that God agree with Abraham's assessment of His justice and confirms that He will spare the whole place on account of the righteous who are in it, whether 50 or ten. And then He removes Lot and his family before destroying it.
I believe this section of scripture gives us a principle of God's justice (which doesn't change because it's based on His character) and if the Tribulation is His judgment on Israel and the world for its sin, then He will spare the righteous. How He does that is up to Him, but it's unlikely He will protect us through it (rather than remove us). The Church is scattered throughout the earth. How do you protect one person from 100 lb hailstones and not the person right next to them? Or how do you protect one person from scorching sun, or inflation, or polluted waterways or from the death of all sealife? Not that God couldn't (since He put light in the Hebrew's houses when darkness covered the land of Egypt) but the Tribulation is so pervasive and so all-encompassing in its effects (all the green grass burned up, etc.), you can't really spare some people and not others.
I also like Rev.3:10: "Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth."
Armageddon Thru To You asked if anyone could reconcile the 6000 years with the birth or death of Adam to 2017.
Here's what I believe at this point:
The six-thousand year timeline represents Redemptive History only, during which God is working to save the world. Therefore I believe it started with the Fall of Adam, not with his creation or death.
Aside: We do not know how long Adam lived before he fell. I suspect God gave him time in the Garden to get to know Him before allowing the competition (Satan) to make his pitch (proposal, if you will). And I suspect this period of innocence was at least 40 years (since four is the number of testing in scripture).
This would correspond to Jesus' 40 days in the wilderness before Satan tempted Him (since Jesus was the Second Adam.)
During that time (40 years, or perhaps even 400 years?) Adam and Even would have had children. Perhaps many children. (And their children would have had children.) These children would have gone out and populated the near earth, and these would have been the individuals Cain was afraid might kill him. Without any way to communicate with each other (mail, phone, etc.), no one would know who-was-who anymore and once the Fall occurred, there would be nothing to keep them from acting out their fears, so Cain would really be at risk.
This idea of a pre-Fall "orientation period," if you will, and the birth of children before the Fall may also explain why Eve testified that she gave birth to Cain "with the help of the Lord" and why the curse of painful childbirth was really a curse. Because she already knew painless childbirth and was going to lose that. And that's why God could say, "I will greatly increase your pain in childbirth."
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Okay, back to point one: the timeline starts at the Fall of Adam.
Then, if each creation day represents 1000 years of redemptive history, which I believe it does, then here's the breakdown as I see it.
The first 4,000 years (or 4 Creation Days) are as follows:
ADAM (fall) 4006-4 BC
ENOCH? (raptured) 3006-4 BC (Day 1 ends)
ABRAHAM (born) 2006-4 BC (Day 2 ends)
DAVID (crowned) 1006-4 BC (Day 3 ends)
JESUS (born) 6-4 BC (Day 4 ends)
Then we don't count Jesus' lifetime. Jesus' life is a parentheses. It's not counted in the timeline because He represents the "Fullness of Time" (and He does not need redemption).
(Note: I believe Jesus died on a Wednesday, on the Preparation Day for Unleavened Bread, in 30 AD. Hebcal says the Preparation Day in 30 AD was on Wednesday. Preparation Day was not on a Wednesday in 31 or 33 AD. Then He was in the grave three full days and three full nights and rose at the start of First Fruits Saturday evening. His absence was discovered by the women Sunday morning at sunrise.)
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Starting again at Jesus' death with the 5th Creation Day beginning at Pentecost, 30 AD:
CHURCH (Holy Spirit imparted) 30 AD
This is followed by 40 years of testing for Israel. Will she accept her Messiah? The answer was no, so...
ISRAEL is SET ASIDE 70 AD
Jerusalem is lost/destroyed
(Luke 21:24: Jesus said, "and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.)
The "times of the Gentiles" began will the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
(Hosea 6:1-2: "He has wounded us, but He will bandage us. He will revive us after two days; He will raise us up on the third day that we may live before Him.)
For two days Israel is set aside to wander the earth, Jerusalem is in foreign hands and the Church is being purged and refined.
However, those two days, represented by Days 5 & 6 of the creation week, will be shortened for the sake of the Elect, as Jesus said in Mat. 24:22 or no life would be saved. So the last 2,000-year period will be shortened. (We know the Tribulation will not be shortened to less than seven years, so what else can He be referring to?)
If there were two full days of 1000 years each after His death, the Rapture would come in 2030, and the second coming seven years later in 2037 (which is exactly 70 years after the "Times of the Gentiles" ended in 1967 with the recapture of Jerusalem), but since He shortened "those days," the end will come sooner than that, and the prophecy about the "budding of the fig tree" applies here. The generation that saw the "budding of the fig tree" in 1947 or 48 will not expire before all is accomplished. This 70-year generation ends in 2017 or 18 (depending on whether you calculate from the UN decree or Israel's declaration of independence). I believe that will be at Day of Atonement 2017.
The Rapture of the Bride who has "made herself ready" will precede that by seven years, so by the Fall of 2010, if not before.
This thesis is detailed on our site at http://www.grace-n-truth.com/13theories, especially in Theories 5 - 13. I have also posted a tract called "Time is Running Out" graphing this timeline, under The Last Days tab. It includes info about how the Feasts fit into the timeline. If you click on it, you can print it out and either fold it, or print again on the back and cut apart for two tracts. (Unfortunately it's on 8.5 x 14 paper as I couldn't fit it all on 8.5. x 11.) I'm going to work on a more detailed version for 8.5x11, but this is a good tool to use to explain it to someone. If you want to link to it from your site, you can.
Hi JRED, thanks for the posting and explanation on Daniel Timeline. I have one question - as the entire passage from verses 24 to 27 refers the "week" to 1 year (based on word "week" was translated from the Hebrew word Shabuwa meaning "The Feast of Weeks" and there is only one "Feast of Weeks" per year). Why then is that for verse 27 - "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week", this week is interpreted as a 7 year period instead. Thanks Dave
Hi JRED,
Thanks for the posting and explanation on Daniel Timeline. I have one question - as the entire passage from verses 24 to 27 refers the "week" to 1 year (based on word "week" was translated from the Hebrew word Shabuwa meaning "The Feast of Weeks" and there is only one "Feast of Weeks" per year). Why then is that for verse 27 - "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week", this week is interpreted as a 7 year period instead.
Thanks Dave
Great question, Dave! I'd like to know the answer to that one, too. This doesn't answer your question but it's an interesting coincidence and maybe someone can do something with it: I've always wondered why the angel in Dan. 9:25-26 says there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks for Israel, and that after the sixty-two weeks Messiah will be cut off. Why is it broken up like that?? But if you add 1947 and 62, you get 2009! (Or 1948 + 62 = 2010.) Do you think there's any significance to that? If the Messiah is cut off after 62 weeks, that could be a reference to the Rapture and His Body being cut off from the earth 62 years after the declaration. Just thinking out loud here. The seven years would have to follow the 62 years then, and then the Anti-Christ would have to confirm the covenant for only one year and break the agreement after six months. If that agreement were to be a confirmation of the Levitical covenant (i.e., allowing animal sacrifices for Israel in her newly rebuilt temple) and then that agreement were revoked after six months, then maybe it might be kind of a possible fit. Dunno. Still seems like a s-t-r-e-t-c-h.
K.C., thanks for your comments. Great input!
God bless you for this article that your wrote. It is much information which shows in depth study. I would like to offer a writing of mine regarding the Day of the Lord.
Both the Old and New Testaments speak to believers regarding the teachings of the book of Revelation. Paul when writing to the Thessalonians encourages them regarding the event of God’s divine wrath upon the earth. In 2 Thessalonians 2:1 – 17 he describes the events of the Day of the Lord. The Day of the Lord is also referred to in scripture as “that day”, “that great day”, and “the day.” Judgment is always associated with the Day of the Lord and its related terms. It immediately follows the rapture of the Church and concludes with the termination of the 1000 year Millennial Reign. Paul saw importance in the Thessalonians understanding the events of the Day of the Lord. A major portion of the book of Revelation is the Day of the Lord. Present day believers as with the saints at Thessalonica need to understand the book of Revelation. Our faith is strengthened when we understand the spiritual significance of our present day.
They are seeking to overthrow the rule of God as revealed in the book of Revelation. We understand our warfare better when we understand our enemy’s goal. It is great encouragement to us during our battles to know the rewards that await us for being faithful. Every attack, all battles, trials, tribulations and persecutions make up the purpose of Satan towards his ultimate goal. Effects from our response to his attacks have a bearing in the lives of others. Spiritual warfare of our day is a movement towards the Day of the Lord.
What will be the culmination of the evil that we face? It will culminate into the manifestation of the Beast to further the purpose of Satan. God directs all activity in the universe to the fulfillment of His plan. No degree of the profane, reprobate, perverse, vial, or apostate can overpower the force of God from being guided toward the fulfillment of His plan. We are currently experiencing the development of events which will be fulfilled during the Day of the Lord; however, we will not be on earth during their fulfillment.
What is the spiritual significance of our day as it pertains to the
Guidance for our lives in fulfilling God’s plan comes from the Lord. Prayer, fasting, and reading His word for wisdom for our day is better achieved if we understand His program. Our pursuit to indentify our ministry is more effective when we understand what our ministry is fulfilling. Ministry is guided in the direction to the fulfillment of God’s plan for the church, the Day of the Lord, and eternity. Studying and understanding the book of Revelation is truth imparted into the reader which will culminate in a more perfected walk. Fulfillment of our perfected walk does not save us. “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.” (Titus 3:5) God’s fulfillment of His plan includes the fulfillment of His will for our lives.
Paul spoke of the Day of the Lord in Thessalonians because many of the believers had become disturbed thinking that the Day of the Lord had come. Paul explains to them that they will not be on earth during the Day of the Lord. Hope is the same message given to the church as given to the Thessalonians. Let us not be troubled nor shaken in mind regarding the crisis of this present world. Jesus will come back for us prior to the outpouring of God’s wrath. In the book of Revelation the church is raptured prior to the judgment of God upon the earth. We are glorified in white robes and rewarded with crowns.
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Rapture is a question of knowing the end. Devey's work of timeline is great. He set the base, where we can stand on. Jewish view is standartly no rapture - because Jewish people stay until Yeshua comes for them. Messianic jews have no teaching concerning rapture.
We need to know - why rapture - Yeshua pulls his fellowship beside for a small time - in this time of besideness is one big wedding feast, perhaps some additional preparation - afterwards Yeshua returns with his holiest to earth to the mount of olives. After finishing the big battle the new order of Yeshua starts. There than is a wedding feast with his beloved nation (ethnos = family).
Daniel 9:26 - hebraican word "mshich" is plural form. Yeshua never can't be meant within the standart interpretation of earlier times. In Daniel 9:25 it is attached with the word prince - transfered to usage of one single person - but sentence 26 speaks of a group of persons cut off (from earth)- with yearcounter 62. Daniel 8:14 confirms that the holy offerings in heavenly area (the prayers) are pulled of 2.300 days before Yeshuas coming. Knowing the least dateand recounting 2.300 days drives to one day before 63. shavuot since Nov 1947. As Amos says that Adonai shows his people everything before he acts - so it would be normal to suggest finding information on behalf of the rapture time frame between the book covers.
I agree with your informaion on Daniel's Timeline, the feasts, and the Olivet Discourse. I do believe that the spirit of Elija is falling upon us now just as God said it would. I also believe that the information that we are just now "getting" from the book of Daniel is just being revealed in God's perfect timing. I just learned all of it within the past 3 months, and am passing it on to as many people that will listen. Yours lines up exactly with how I was taught as well. Thank you so much
Something to think on - the 2 horns of the Rev 13 beast
the line that everyone reads "two horns like a lamb" trows everyone off.
They think the beast is like a lamb, but it says the horns of the beast are like a lamb.
the beast is in no way like a lamb. It is killing people for enforcing the mark!
becasue prophecy students have read the beast to be "like a lamb", nd thought that meant england and the US, they've verlooked the obvious 2 other powers in the world. It can be none other than China and Russia and this agrees with the many direct downlaods from heaven in dreams, signs and visions of the coming invasion of the US lead by china and russia.
There is your two horned beast!
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I recently read your blog post about your 2009 find of the Daniel's Timeline which sounded so much like my story. Was happy when the Spirit lead me to the information. I was also in the process of going through the serious work of making a word copy of the work but know that I came across your page I will make it available on my blog site. earthchages.wordpress.com. Good work and what you do does matter.
email me anytime. kloe.black@americaneastent.com.
who has dates? This article was written in 2009 and the start of the 7 years should have been in 2009/2010.
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