2/28/2010 04:00:00 PM
Jeffrey K Radt ("JRed")
The title of this post is blunt because it's meant to grab your attention. If you read it and scoff at the thought, then this commentary is for you. If you read it and agree, then this commentary is for you.
Simply put, it's about time that the believing and unbelieving world finally acknowledged and accepted the truth of the matter -- the prophecies contained in the Holy Bible for the "last days" are real, they can be trusted, and they're unfolding all around us on a daily basis.
Now that the formalities are out of the way let's get to the heart of the matter. I truly believe the Holy Spirit is revealing so much to us these days especially to those of us who pray for ears to hear and eyes to see.
There just seems to be a flood of prophetically relevant stories in the news lately. So much so, that those of us who remain steadfast in our duty to watch and warn need to be shouting about the spiritual significance about these things to anyone and everyone who will listen.
The clock is ticking and even though only God knows for certain where we are on His prophetic timeline as it relates to the prophesied sequence of events, I think we'd all agree that we're well into the eleventh hour and quickly approaching midnight, or our darkest hour.
Jesus' own words set the stage for our journey today:
Luke 21:11 (KJV) And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. (emphasis mine)
Luke 21:25-26 (KJV) And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (emphasis mine)
Incredibly, those words could read as if He were a reporter on the scene following any number of tragic events to have shocked the world in recent months. Of course, we Christians know that He actually is there amidst all the pain and suffering as a result of so-called "natural" disasters, and therein lies the subtext to His sobering comments recorded in the above passages from the New Testament.
It's also worth mentioning that we have now also entered the time when Israel celebrates the "Feast of Lots" or "Purim", which started today on Sunday, February 28th, 2010, and will continue for 2 days until Monday, March 1st, 2010. Note that in the Jewish calender, a holiday begins on the sunset of the previous day, so observing Jews will have celebrated Purim on the sunset of Saturday, February 27th, 2010.
Purim is the celebration of Jewish deliverance as told in the Book of Esther (Esther 9:18-32). After the destruction of the Kingdom of Judah, the Jews were taken into the 70-year Babylonian captivity. When ancient Persia (know today as Iran) took control, Haman, royal vizier to King Ahasuerus, planned to kill the Jews, but his plans were foiled by Esther and Mordecai.
This "Feast of Lots" commemorates the preservation of the Jewish people. Purim is a celebration of God's faithful protection of His people. Here's the modern day application for anyone reading this especially in light of the reminder that our lives are not our own, and that we could die at any moment.
Think about it. The Jews of Esther's day were delivered from an irrevocable decree of the Persian king Ahasuerus. God also has an irrevocable decree that all people are sinners and deserve death (Genesis 2:17; Romans 3:23). However, Jesus Christ delivers all who believe in Him from that irrevocable decree as well (Isaiah 53; Romans 6:23). Many have and may continue to persecute believers in Jesus Christ, but Isaiah's prophecy suggests that they will not prevail because "God is with us", or literally because of Immanuel (Isaiah 8:10).
A few quick thoughts on this Jewish holiday before we continue with our study today:
> The word "purim" means "lots" and refers to the lot Haman cast to decide the day for the destruction of the Jewish people (Esther 3:7), which kinda feels like the world we're living in today as it pertains to "waiting for the other shoe to drop" and seeing how and when Israel's enemies decide to attack her or decide to entice her to attack them.
> Esther was her Persian name meaning "star", which is curious in light of all our looks at space and "extraterrestrial" type things and their likely prophetic role in the days, weeks, months, and years ahead.
> Her Hebrew name was "Hadassah" meaning "myrtle", which is compelling given how that word (and tree) has come up in recent Bible prophecy forums.
> "Hamantashen" is a three-cornered cookie that represents Haman's hat. Jews make and eats these cookies during Purim. Strange, because they look like mini representations of pyramids, and we've all seen by now the significance of pyramids to not only ancient Egypt (those who enslaved God's people), but to those New Agers and Satanists alive and active today.
> Purim is celebrated on "Adar 14" in most cities except those cities surrounded by walls since the time of Joshua. Walled cities celebrate Purim on "Adar 15" ("Shushan Purim"). Hopefully, that calls to mind another very important prophetic verse that we find Ezekiel 38:11 that reads: "And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,"
> God's name is not mentioned in the Book of Esther, but His providence and provision are obvious, which makes me think of yesterday's tragedy in Chile. So many people see the death and destruction in Haiti and now Chile and they wonder, "Where's God amidst all the pain and suffering?" What they fail to realize is their role in creating this fallen world, and God's desire to help them bridge the gap from hopelessness to hope.
That last point provides us with a good time to segue. By now, you've all heard of the rising death toll, and tsunami watch after a devastating 8.8-magnitude earthquake rocked Chile (this on the heels of a 7.0-magnitude earthquake in Japan a day earlier!).
Officials are saying that it was dozens of times (64 times according to scientists, or 500x energy) more intense than Haiti's! Hospitals in the area have been evacuated and the airport in Santiago has been shut down as the country braces to cope with at least 13 aftershocks measuring 5.0 magnitude or stronger. Phone lines and power also are out of service.
The minute-and-a-half-long quake was less than 100 miles north from the southwest coastal city of Concepcion, the second-largest city in Chile, but caused damage as far away as the capital Santiago nearly 200 miles away.
Concepcion is Spanish for "conception", in reference to the Immaculate Conception. It is also the name of several towns and cities. The largest of these is Concepción, Chile, which is home to over one million people.
Santiago is Spanish and Portuguese for "Saint James", son of Zebedee. He is the patron saint of Spain and his name is revered throughout the Spanish and Portuguese speaking world.
The juxtaposition seems obvious to me and it has me thinking the following:
> These insanely powerful earthquakes we've seen lately represent "sudden destruction". What does the Bible tell us about "sudden destruction" as it relates to end times Bible prophecy. For the answer, see 1 Thessalonians 5:3, which reads: "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."
> Earthquakes = "Labor Pains"
> Tsunamis = "Water Breaking"
> Concepcion/Conception leads pregnancy, which leads to "labor pains", which leads to one's "water breaking", which leads to "birth".
> Santiago/James is a son of Zebedee, or a "Son of Thunder"
> Along with Peter and his brother John, James was part of the inner circle of Jesus, who witnessed the Transfiguration, were witnesses to certain of His miracles (like the raising of the daughter of Jairus), and accompanied Him to the Garden of Gethesemane.
> In Spain, he is called "El Senor Santiago", the patron saint of horsemen and soldiers. Yep, horsemen and soldiers. No further explanation needed for this group.
> The "birth" that's coming is the beginning of the prophesied Daniel's 70th Week (Tribulation/Great Tribulation) and final 7 years of life as we know it
> The "birth" is also the symbolic birth of the Antichrist's reign over this world for a time
> Are today's tragic events evidence that the world is about to experience the culmination of God's plan for humanity as embodied withing Daniel's 70th Week now that we've all experienced the final "labor pain" (earthquakes), the "water breaking" (tsunamis), and the eventual and imminent rise of a perverted version of a "son of thunder" (reminded me of Jesus' description of Satan in Luke 10:18 for some reason) perhaps in response to the devastation by such disasters?
But that's not all. Let's ignore the "Antichrist-Is-Coming-And-The-Tribulation-Is-About-To-Begin" angle for a moment (as important as it is). Instead, let's hone in on the other important figures of the end times -- the Two Witnesses. I think there may be something profound in the above discoveries for what they MIGHT tell us about these two enigmatic figures who are scheduled to appear relatively soon in order to punish humanity for her sins.
How did I make that leap, or why am I thinking about that today? Well, we've already seen why yesterday's earthquake had me thinking about James who is one of the sons of Zebedee. The other was John. So, the Zebedee brothers = James and John = the "Sons of Thunder".
In Luke's gospel, Jesus spots early warning signs from his disciples as they travel toward Jerusalem. These early warning signs indicate that violence is on the way unless someone puts a stop to it. As we know, the Bible tells us that unimaginable violence is on the way, and that the only One who can put a stop to it is Jesus Christ Himself.
James and John show us why they were nicknamed “Sons of Thunder”. Their outburst, upon entering a Samaritan village, was a thunderous early warning signal to Jesus -- one he countered so that people would not be swept away by violence.
The Samaritans hated Jesus and his followers. This animosity becomes visible when the Samaritans refuse to offer hospitality to Jesus and the disciples as they travel the hot, dusty, and dangerous road to Jerusalem. James and John, hungry, tired, and expecting Middle Eastern hospitality -- in the form of washed feet, good food, and a place to sleep -- are outraged that it is denied them. And so their thundering voices are raised toward Jesus: “Lord, do you want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” In today's idiom, that translates: “Do you want us to call in heavy artillery and military air strikes to blow them away?”
That got me thinking. Check out these comparisons:
Luke 9:51-54 (KJV) And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? (emphasis mine)
Which brings to mind the ministry of the Two Witnesses:
Revelation 11:4-6 (KJV) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. (emphasis mine)
No, I'm not saying I think that James and John will be the Two Witnesses. I'm merely pointing out how the Holy Spirit used yesterday's events to prompt me to consider James -- a "son of thunder" -- and that, in turn, led me to consider the possible relationship between the verses that mention those Zebedee brothers and those that mention the Two Witnesses.
The ministry of the Two Witnesses was to start at the altar of incense in the Most Holy Place -- in God's Temple - this has been said by some to symbolize the Body of Christ -- whose members are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. In addition, some assert that the ministry of the Two Witnesses will also coincide with the rise of the Antichrist to power during the Tribulation, or those first 3.5 years of the final 7, which is also commonly known as Daniel's 70th Week. Needless to say, all of these beautiful mysteries that the Holy Spirit has led me to this weekend has me wondering whether or not we are about to experience the beginning of Daniel's 70th week, the beginning of the Tribulation, and, therefore, the beginning of the ministry of the Two Witnesses to occur synonymously with the rise of the Antichrist as world ruler.
If we're really as close to the end of life as we know it as I believe that we are then perhaps it's time for us Christians to face the music:
Jake Hamilton - Sons of Thunder Arise - Impartation
"You are not an echo! You are a voice! Worship was never made for the church! Worship was made for the streets!"
Wow. Powerful stuff. Like James and John, we need the courage to stand boldly for our Lord (Romans 10:8-11).
Why “Sons of Thunder”? The Bible never fully explains this interesting nickname, but we can see the cause of it in the lives of these two men. They were quick to protect Jesus, though their zeal was misplaced (Mark 9:38-40); when Jesus was rejected by the Samaritans because he was traveling to Jerusalem, James and John wanted to avenge the insult (Luke 9:51-56); they had great zeal, but, like the Jewish people as a whole, it was not founded in knowledge (Romans 10:1-3); they, and their family, wanted to be great in Jesus’s kingdom (Matthew 20:20-28).
As we continue here today, it's interesting to point out how their lack of knowledge was corrected and their zeal was put to useful work for the Lord. James was the first apostle to die for the faith (Acts 12:1-2), and John was the last of the apostles to die while exiled on a penal island, Patmos, where John wrote the Book of Revelation (Revelation 1:9-11). Let's turn our attention to that book for the remainder of our work here.
As if that weren't enough to keep one in fervent prayer and intense study for awhile, I also saw a number of headlines from various sources all day yesterday afternoon stating "Magnitude 8.8 Quake Kills At Least 122", which is a curious number.
For hours upon hours on end on Saturday, I noticed that this was the one number that kept coming up in connection with any mention of a death toll in Chile. I'm writing this portion of this article around 4:30pm EST on Saturday, February 27th, 2010. By the time this was published (Sunday, February 28th, 2010), the death toll has already climbed past 300+ from the latest reports I've seen so that 122 number is no longer front-and-center. However, I wanted to highlight something I remembered seeing once about that number because it MIGHT BE important to us. More on that in a moment.
Witnesses were even being quoted as having said, "It's like the end of the world..." Indeed. Sadly, they have no idea just how right they are. Will those who have still failed to listen and take notice finally understand and see the big picture? Lord, I pray with all my heart that the fence-sitters and unbelievers are moved beyond words as this may very well be their final wake-up call.
Back to the number that keeps coming up today in relation to this story. Would you believe that there's a connection between the number 122 and Satan being cast out of Heaven? I hope that got your attention like it did mine when I first read encountered the thought.
For those who enjoy illuminating their understanding of God's Word by doing a scholarly study of His uses of certain numbers and number patterns to communicate the same ideas and themes over and over again, there is something called "Theomatics".
Theomatics is not the same as the "Bible Code" subject everybody in recent years has been talking about -- sometimes called the "Torah Codes", or "ELS (Equi-distant Letter Sequences)". The Bible Code has received a huge amount of worldwide publicity and has even been featured on popular TV shows like Oprah. This "code" was supposedly discovered in 1958, whereas Theomatics is said to have been known since the time before Christ (also called "Gematria" and "Isopsephia").
Some claim that the Bible Code has been debunked or disproven repeatedly by world class mathematicians, and that in recent years it has "dropped like a rock" in popularity because of such. Others still maintain there's something to the phenomenon. A summary discussion of the difference between Theomatics and the Bible Code can be found online if you're interested.
One thing that everyone agrees on no matter which camp you find yourself in is that there is not even the slightest similarity between the two systems. Theomatics is said to be much more definable and provable and does not have the problematic statistical/proof method(s) and arbitrary/unscientific characteristics often attributed to the Bible Code.
Ok, so what is Theomatics? Why should we even care? Here's a brief and powerful explanation:
The word "theomatics" is the composite of two words. The Greek word for God is "theo," and when combined with the suffix of the word "mathematics," the result is "theomatics." It means "the numbers or mathematics of God." Also, this is not the same thing as the Bible code subject of recent years, that is all over the internet and even been featured on the Oprah show (also called "Torah codes" or "ELS"). A summational discussion of the difference between theomatics and the Bible code is presented (Chapter 2p). The Bible code was supposedly discovered in 1963. But the basis of Theomatics, also called "gematria" and "isopsephia" has been known since the time before Christ -- this is not some Johnny come lately concept. These Hebrew and Greek "theomatic" number codes that theomatics uses, can be found right in Webster's dictionary. The Bible was originally written in the Hebrew language (Old Testament) and the Greek language (New Testament).
This theomatics code in the Bible is absolutely amazing and mind boggling. Statistically, it proves beyond any reasonable doubt the divine and supernatural origin of the Bible. It is mathematically and categorically impossible for this phenomenon to appear in any work of literature. ONLY IN THE BIBLE does it happen (see Chapter 2o).
After it is scientifically proven -- in the laboratory -- that the entire Bible was put together in a supernatural manner with a secret coded system, we will discuss the issue of how we must now understand and interpret all this new information. What are the implications? What does the data mean? What is the hidden code saying to us?
The theomatics code -- the existence of which is objective fact -- will now give us a completely new apparatus, a different way of seeing and understanding things in the Bible. Yet everything in the open text of the Bible will remain the same (nothing will be added or taken away). Yet from this time onwards it will all look very different to you. The BIG picture of why man is on this earth, is going to open itself up before our very eyes. Theomatics is quite literally the very "mathematical language of God" … a fresh way that the Creator will now use to communicate His message -- it will quite literally take us into the dimension of another philosophical, theological, and objective universe.
But what does this code mean? Who put it in the Bible, and Why? What is it telling us?
The words that we read from the Bible, the words that we have come to love and treasure over the centuries -- comprises only the surface layer of the Bible. Beneath the surface words there is a vast system of symbolism operating -- which contains depth of meaning that goes way beyond what may seem initially apparent. Various people, times, events, and all the stories in the Bible, carry a much deeper meaning and they are actually telling us something quite a bit different and far more significant than what we can seen if understood just literally or historically.
All of this is very similar to something that you may have seen when you were in school. Do you recall an old encyclopedia, where in the biology section, there were some transparent plastic sheets showing the physiology of either a frog (or even the human body). The first layer showed the top of the frog's body. When you lifted that up, the next sheet showed all the muscles. Beneath that was a plastic sheet showing the blood system with heart, arteries and veins. Next came the brain and nervous system followed by the complete digestive tract. Finally there was the bone and skeletal structure.
When we look at the Bible something similar is going to happen. Up to this point in history, man has primarily seen just the top layer -- the interior structure of how it all works and ties together has remained hidden.
Long before God the Creator inspired men to write the Bible text, He was secretly behind the scenes engineering the original Hebrew (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament) languages of the Bible in order to make all of this work out and tie everything together mathematically. In other words, when we read something literally in the Bible, this numbering code system actually indicates and will tell us the deeper esoteric and hidden meanings that are present.
However, an important fact for all Christians to realize -- even though God has embedded this code and system, none of this will change or contradict a single thing that the Bible says. It will all agree with the open text. The essential truths will remain intact. Theomatics neither adds nor removes anything from the Bible that is not already present.
Thus, Del Washburn (I think that's the guy behind this branch of study and the article I read today) MIGHT BE worth the time to read for his detailed research (again, I can't say one way or another definitively until I've had more time with it myself), but not necessarily for all of his conclusions.
So, what does he do exactly? He takes words and phrases and adds the letters up (like Gematria) and finds other words and phrases that correspond. In the end, he lets the Scriptures serve as the final authority and in doing so shows us some compelling proof that something very profound is going on just beneath a surface reading of the texts, which to me makes perfect sense.
Apparently, the 17 verses that make up Revelation 12 are a prime example of why many hold to Theomatics as a valid method used to study the Holy Bible. Furthermore, some argue that it helps to show that Satan the Dragon in Revelation 12 and the number 122 are linked.
I'll stop here for just a moment and point out how incredibly surreal it is to be looking at Revelation 12 in connection with this number because we just highlighted Revelation 11 -- the previous chapter -- earlier in this piece, which tells us all about the Two Witnesses and their ministry! Folks, that to me is not a "coincidence" of any kind whatsoever. What are the odds?
The author cites how one unnamed Christian leader after studying the following said, "How can anyone possibly doubt the validity of theomatics after witnessing that?"
I include the following here for our prayerful consideration especially after we all witnessed sudden destruction today on a scale rarely imagined outside of Hollywood, or even by those of us who read and study the prophetic Scriptures.
The author argues that "the statistical odds of the following happening by accident, would be no less than millions to one", and that "there is no possible explanation for what you are about to see and witness, other than divine supernatural Intelligence".
Ultimately, the number 122 expresses two things in Theomatics:
1. It is a number specifically to do with the rebellion and warfare in Heaven.
2. It is a key number in Theomatics to do with the actual casting down of Satan and the Fallen Angels.
That last point is what really grabbed my attention and held it. For it was only about a month ago when we considered the Haiti earthquake (and mountains and earthquakes in general) by examining their relationship to the Fallen Angels and their offspring the Nephilim. I strongly encourage you to take a glance at those entries HERE, HERE, and HERE.
Remarkably, that second article I just referenced spent a lot of time discussing how the concept and word "thunder" was appearing everywhere, and here we are (barely a month removed) talking about thunder again! Only this time, it's a "son of thunder" who is the focus of our studies.
Let's recall what the Bible tells us about "thunder" and "lightning", and what Jesus Himself said about Satan. These verses emphasize today's topic I think:
Exodus 9:23 (KJV) And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt. (emphasis mine)
1 Samuel 2:10 (KJV) The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed. (emphasis mine)
Isaiah 29:6 (KJV) Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. (emphasis mine)
Psalm 77:18 (KJV) The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook. (emphasis mine)
Luke 10:18 (KJV) And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. (emphasis mine)
These are just a few examples, but hopefully it's clear that whenever we find "thunder" and "lightning" in the Bible it's never been associated with a good thing.
Also, notice how in a couple of the selected verses (Exodus 9:23; Isaiah 29:6) we see again mention of a "fire" and "devouring fire", which absolutely boggles the mind. I'd say the Holy Spirit MIGHT BE trying to prepare the Body of Christ for some specific event or series of events. Just a thought.
Is it even worth mentioning how during my research I learned about "Sleeping Giant", a "Christian" hardcore band featuring members of "xDEATHSTARx", whose newest album released in late June 2009 was called "Sons of Thunder", and whose current members are also in another band called "The Winter War", or no? You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried to.
I know I must sound like a broken record by now, but is there a Mathematician out there who can calculate the odds of all of this "spiritual convergence" happening by pure "chance", "coincidence", or "dumb luck"?
I encourage you to please recall some of the other things Jesus Himself told us about these times besides them being "as in the days of Noah" (one of the biggest clues He could possibly give us to help us identify the times we're living in). In the Book of Luke:
Matthew 24:37 (KJV) But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (emphasis mine)
Luke 21:11 (KJV) And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. (emphasis mine)
Luke 21:25-26 (KJV) And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (emphasis mine)
Again, not to be redundant here, but it sounds like EVERYTHING we've been experiencing since the start of the New Year, doesn't it? The more I study and the deeper I go the more I'm convinced that we truly operating on borrowed time here.
Another statement from that Theomatics website that caught my eye? "Virtually every reference to Satan in the Old Testament is saturated with the 122 design (see Theomatics II, pp.528-543)." The chapter continues with the following entry:
The central theme of Revelation 12 is a battle that goes on between a woman and a serpent. This all relates back to Genesis chapter 3 and what went on in the Garden of Eden between Eve and the serpent. The passage in Revelation describes a great red dragon in heaven who is the serpent Satan, and who is at war against this woman who eventually gives birth to a man-child (obviously Jesus). All sorts of interpretations have gone forth as to who this woman could possibly be. Theomatics proves conclusively the answer. There is an entire chapter in Angelfall that discusses this as well (see Chapter 5a). Our concentration here is going to be on only two aspects. (1) the direct and specific mentions of Satan and the dragon, and (2) the battle that occurs in heaven. The number that is pervasive in this pattern is the number 122. The largest prime number divisible into 122 is 61, i.e. 61 x 2 = 122. This is the key number of the Satanic rebellion throughout scripture. It is also God's number of invincibility. There is a whole structure of 122 to do specifically with Almighty God and the fact that NO ONE can challenge God's position of authority.
I'm not going to include the entire chapter here word-for-word because you can read it yourself if you're interested, but suffice it to say he does present some awfully compelling, and Biblically sound research that is tough to dispute. In the end, I guess it will come down to your belief about the significance (if any) of the numerical values associated with Hebrew letters, words, and phrases. If that thought and type of study is too "mystical" for you that's fine, but prove to yourself along with prayerful consideration why you feel that way because I will admit that the little bit that I have looked at makes me think that it's simply the "mathematical interpretation/language" of the SAME MESSAGE found in the Holy Bible.
Look, we know that letters have a number value in Hebrew. So, all he does is calculate those values whenever examining certain words and phrases found in the Bible. There's nothing un-Biblical about that, is there? I'm no trying to be flippant with such a comment, but I'm trying to ask a serious question.
What's great about it is that you certainly don't need to have this kind of knowledge in order to appreciate, understand, or have your life changed by the Word of God. We all know that. We could spend a lifetime reading the Holy Bible day-in-and-day-out and still never fully comprehend it all due to the fact that it's God revealed to us through the written word, and His ways are unfathomable (just like He alone is in the sense that we are not God and there are many things we will never understand).
It's in the opinion of this humble Christian that such knowledge (i.e. Gematria, Theomatics, etc.) is not something to be feared or even shunned, but that it's ok to look at His Word in such a way because the patterns and consistent themes seem to be there for a reason. Plus, they don't really "add to", "take away from", or "change" the Word of God, but merely underscore it in a very unique way.
To me, it seems as though it's not only more evidence of a divine Creator behind all the writings contained in that Holy Book (as if we needed more convincing, right?), but it also gives those of us who are interested a deeper sense of appreciation and awe in the presence of an all-powerful, all-knowing Creator of the Universe.
Check out this additional find in the context of everything we've touched upon:
And from this account the two key words "cast" and "earth" produce the following. Again, 61 is the prime key number for the 122 pattern.
CAST - 61
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EARTH - 61
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Fascinating for sure, but can Theomatics be trusted? Like I said earlier, the wealth of research on the Angelfall website about this controversial subject is profoundly enticing, but I still haven't spent enough time with Theomatics myself to make any definitive conclusions one way or another. I'll have to do that as soon as possible. Please just use caution, test every spirit, and pray about what you find during any time spent with Theomatics -- just in case.
Regardless of where Theomatics falls within the spectrum of today's end times topics, something tells me I might want to dig out my copy of Patrick Heron's blockbuster The Nephilim And The Pyramid of the Apocalypse, or just listen to this classic interview again. We've already mentioned the Nephilim, pyramids, and the Antichrist, but this classic interview Heron gave to Coast To Coast AM from 2005 takes on greater significance now more than ever:
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 1)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 2)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 3)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 4)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 5)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 6)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 7)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 8)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 9)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 10)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 11)
Coast To Coast AM - Patrick Heron - Nephilim And The Pyramids (Part 12)
Heron believes it is impossible that the Egyptians constructed the Great Pyramid. Rather, he suggested that 5,500 years ago, the Nephilim (who were the offspring of the Fallen Angels who mated with human women written about in the Book of Genesis) built the pyramids and other ancient structures. They were beautiful looking "spirit men," who appeared human, but were not bound by the same laws of physics as mankind, he explained. Hmmm, sounds like the "Enceladus" and the Giants from Ancient Mythology, doesn't it?
Heron goes on to explain how they mated with Earth women during two periods, before the Great Flood and afterwards. Heron said the Nephilim never died, but were entombed in an "abyss" or "netherworld". Yep, that's exactly what the Ancient Mythological accounts say about the Giants too -- that the Titans were imprisoned in Tartarus, and the Giants entombed beneath mountains and volcanos!
According to prophecy in the Book of Revelation, a spirit man or "star" (just like Esther's Persian name translates to!) comes down to Earth with the "keys" to the Bottomless Pit. He identified this being/creature as the future Antichrist, whom people will be deceived into thinking is the Messiah, but he'll actually lead the world into the prophesied Apocalypse.
Get ready folks. Just "as in the days of Noah" like Jesus Himself warned us (Matthew 24:37). Now do you see why I make such a fuss out of these sorts of things all the time? The evidence is all there and staring us all in the face. It's time for the fence-sitters and outright unbelievers to wake-up and look up. For some, it could be now or never.
At this point, I feel I want to end by reminding us all that as Christians we are not supposed to be ruled by a spirit of fear. If you're unsure what I mean by that then please read "Fight Fear With Faith". Also, just because I focus on the sinister side of life and write about my belief that the Tribulation is close, it is not done to create fear and panic, which some say will continue to feed the fear more and more and more, but I do it to CONFIRM for others that what God's Word says about these end times is true, and that it can be trusted because we're starting to see it unfold all around us with a greater frequency and intensity.
Jesus said to beware so that you are not deceived. Unless we see these things in their proper context for what they really are, then we won't take them as seriously as we should, or we won't prepare ourselves spiritually for the reality that's coming sooner than later.
Of course God is control despite all the chaos and uncertainty, but that should go without saying. Lastly, just because I'm identifying what I believe to be the "the end is near" connections doesn't mean I'm "afraid" or "scared" in the least bit. Quite the contrary!
Yes, I could be wrong about all of this, but the Biblical connections to real-world events are too neat and too compact. I believe that the prophesied Daniel's 70th Week, the start of the Tribulation, the ministry of the Two Witnesses, and the rise of the Antichrist is at hand!
Keep looking up! Lord come quickly!
Remember: "You are not an echo! You are a voice! Worship was never made for the church! Worship was made for the streets!"
NOTE: Please see comments in Comments Section for some important notes on this piece discovered since publishing it...
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Just found this from the Theomatics website:
"The theomatics code in the Bible proves conclusively that every person who is born into this world pre-existed in heaven -- we are the fallen angels who were thrown out and cast down to earth. Literally. That is why the Bible teaches that men and women are born sinners.
The evidence and scientific data that supports this conclusion is a 100% certain fact beyond any reasonable doubt—the evidence is clear as a bell and absolutely conclusive. In other words, Angelfall is not a theory. It is not an interesting possibility. It is not speculation. Angelfall is an AXIOM. What that means is that once the evidence is seen and comprehended, there will be no further need for discussion, argument, or analysis. The truth will simply be self-evident.
There are many hundreds of pages on this website that provides solid proof to this conclusion. And it also agrees perfectly with what the Bible explicitly states in the open text (although people have read it for hundreds of years and never quite seen the big picture—God hid the hard facts behind symbolic/esoteric/allegorical methodology).
The souls of men upon earth are actually the spirits of angelic beings who got their hides kicked out of heaven for rebelling against their Creator when they questioned and doubted God's sovereignty, wisdom, and eternal knowledge. They eventually lost their faith in God and turned against their Creator in consummate rage and hatred. And then they tried to become gods themselves in order to save and exalt themselves. All through the Bible, especially in the book of Revelation, it talks about this war in heaven—a war that is clearly INTEGRATED with men now living physically upon planet earth.
The Bible teaches that Jesus came and died on the cross in order to save and redeem lost sinners. The word 'redemption' in the Bible means to 'buy back.' You can't buy something back unless you once had it in the first place (before it was lost). The entire doctrine of redemption in the Bible is related to the angelic rebellion and fall from heaven, and God's plan of restoration through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. The Bible teaches that the blood of Jesus was actually necessary in order to resolve issues and cleanse things in the heavens (see Heb 9:23 and Col 1:20)."
Nothing "controversial" about that is there? I've always been the first to admit that my/our common understanding of certain Biblical concepts (not the fundamentals) could be flawed or misunderstood completely, but there's no question this is a paradigm-shifting thought, isn't it?
See, this is why I wanted to be clear that my inclusion of Theomatics in this article was ONLY to point out how I had once seen the number 122 being touted as "prophetically significant" and NOT to be taken as a flat out endorsement of the method of study. Much still needs to be done in that regard for sure!
Saved By Grace Through Faith,
Jeff (JRed)
Theomatics was meant to be a side note to the main thrust of this piece, and while I don't want this debate to detract from the key points of interest here, since we're on the subject what do you all think about this...
(from Angelfall.com website)
"All through the gospels, many times, Jesus Himself talked about the stars or angels falling from heaven. This is a major topic in Scripture—it is mentioned all through the Bible, especially in the book of Revelation, where it talks about the serpent's tail sweeping the 'third part of the stars' (or angels) from heaven, and casting them to earth (see Rev 6:13,8:12 and the all of chapter 12). Those angels are you and I along with the rest of the human race. The serpent that casts the angels from heaven is the SAME EXACT SERPENT that caused Adam and Eve to fall in the garden paradise (which represents the heavenly paradise).
IT IS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING AND MIND-BOGGLING, THAT THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIANS AND STUDENTS OF THE BIBLE, HAVE READ THESE CHAPTERS IN REVELATION ABOUT THE ANGELS WARRING IN HEAVEN, ALL ENTERTWINED WITH A WOMAN AND A SERPENT, AND NEVER QUITE SEEN THE SYMBOLIC CONNECTION TO MANKIND AND THE GARDEN OF EDEN—ALL OF THESE THINGS IN REVELATION ARE THE EXPANDED VIEW OF THE SAME EXACT EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN GENESIS."
Is there any truth to this, or is this a classic tactic by Satan -- mix some truth with some poison to ultimately deceive and lead astray?
Because we all know that even if 99% of a meal is "good", that 1% that's "poision" os enough to kill you.
Like I said, this wasn't intended to be a "Theomatics Column", but I know that it will become the focal point of criticism and debate around here so have at it I suppose -- respectfully that is.
I just hope that we can also discuss and debate some of the other main points and discoveries too.
God Bless,
Jeff (JRed)
Well, that was a pretty wild study.
I agree, I will no be getting into "it" about the website. They are indeed mixing truth with error. But we do know (by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT and the grace the comes through GOD through faith in HIM) that time is running out.
Dee
Woah! I don't know what to say about theomatics! What I will say is that I, too, sensed a prophetic association to the name Concepcion and went to my Strong's to see if I could come up with anything. So, I think that is a confirmation of one witness. Anyone else? There was another word that kept showing up that I thought was prophetic, but right now I can't remember what it was. If I do remember it, I'll re-post it. Wow, I'm still shaking my head on theomatics. I'm praying it's not true because it gives me the heebeejeebees for some reason.
Kim
Rev 10:4 NIV - And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down."
Very, very interesting, to say the least!
I'm not saying I buy into it, but I always want to be aware of things like this because who knows, maybe we're missing something. Unlike many, I don't claim to know the Word of God in every way it was intended, so I at least would like to see some scholarly discussion on the topic.
You're right though, this is very controversial and will likely set some visitors off, one in particular ; )
jeff
this is very interesting and may have a lot of fact in it. I have not had a chance to check out the site yet.
there is no doubt that mathematics play a very important part in GODS existence and character, but you must be very careful to never make this an article of worship!!!
also just like everything else GOD created, lucifer has some sort of mirror image of it. to fool the the sleeping masses!!!
concerning us as fallen angels??? I believe in some cases you are right! but do not forget the WORD of GOD in every instance, splits the existence of angels into three separate categories or thirds!!!
the bible states that the one third that followed lucifer refused to be born of women and left their habitation! these are the nephilim!!!
another third stuck by GOD and his creation and these are the angels still in heaven with GOD!!!
the middle third where the luke warm or undecided, and would not choose a side.
these are the angels or souls that have been born of women, and are here to decide who they will follow into the eternity!!!
these are all those born as humans, with free will so they can choose their own coarse!!! with no remembrance of their angelic past life.
GOD wants for us all to repent and come to him, but he will never force anyone to love him!
forced love is false love. and you can use this formula in any aspect of life here on earth!!!
I hope maybe this clears some things up? keep studying, and check out what I have said in GODS WORD! see if it does not make sense!!!
GOD help them to see the TRUTH!!!!!!! if it is in your will!
amen
john
So from "conception" to birth is around 266 days. February 27 is the 58th day of the year...add 266 to that and you get 324. The 324th day of the year is Nov 19th. Hmmm... maybe 11/11 we will be out of here just before the birth and that is what all the 1111s are about???
Jeff, I have checked out this site for over a year now. I always found in interesting thought provoking. But, this whole thing about humans being fallen angels is ridiculous. From your comments I can't tell if you actually believe it or you are putting it out there for debate. I can deal with the whole (alien/fallen angel) angle, but this is too much. The Bible explicitly saya that God created (man) in HIS image and likeness. There is no record or hint of such a theory. If i'm misunderstanding you please explain your point more clearly. However, I believe that posts like this are beyond dangerous. People seeking the Truth can't afford to even cosider such a lie. I think it's time for you to shut this thing down. Jesus is returning, that much is sure, but trying to fit everything into your view or theories is damaging. I say this with love, please for your sake and those seeking close shop. It's over.
Well, John was commanded to seal up or "shut up" the words or meaning until the end times. I suppose it's a possibility that this is something to do with that. I'm in agreement about one thing for sure and that is that we're seeing things happen with a frequency and intensity that the world has never seen before. Even folks who know nothing about the bible or prophecy are agreeing that something big is afoot! Thanks JRed.
Great piece, JRed.
My personal observation about the two witnesses is that they are NOT Elisha or Elijah or Moses or Christians or ... The Bible Code (Exodus2006.com) has two descriptions that are very deep. What they appear to say to me is that the two witnesses are two great wars that will place the nation of Israel in sackcloth and mourning. The "two wave loaf"
firstfruits (2/10ths of the entire nation)are "baked"; they are a sacrifice to the Lord for the sin of the nation; the loaves have leaven (sin) in them - 1/10 of the nation will die in each of these 2 wars. Israel will be "run over" by the gentiles until the end and during that time 7/10 of the nation will die. 1/10 will be brought "through the fire." After 3-1/2 years the nation of Israel will stand on its feet (after appearing to have vanished) to all the world and "come alive" again. The two great wars will turn the hearts of the children (Israeli Jews) back to their father through great suffering. Those that try to harm them - "fire" will come out of their mouths (weaponry). They can create plagues and turn water into blood.
Two witnesses = two wars = coming against Israel as a nation. The nation will appear to be destroyed, only to rise up on their feet (come back from the grave) in 3-1/2 years.
Jake Hamilton is awesome. He is a powerful worship leader for our day that seems to be connected to the heart cry of many intercessors.
I saw this article on the day of the earthquake.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/fl-deerfield-boy-killed-20100227,0,5368301.story
I thought it was "interesting" that the spokeswoman's name is Concepcion and the numbers in the story. Just another strange coincidence?
JRed: I mentioned to a friend not long ago that I felt the "Biblewheel" was the Wheel within the Wheel spoken of in the Bible - all going in straight lines. (Rabbi Gaon - discovered Gematria - talks about straight lines = truth ... valleys being raised up and mountains coming down mean level - smoothe ... straight lines ... all meaning truth. The New Kingdom will all be based on long straight lines or truth.)
The Biblewheel is pretty much what you describe in this piece. It is absolutely absolutely fascinating. What it opens up is startling.
I told this friend that it appeared to me that we would be studying the Bible in such great depth during the next 1,000 years -in a way that we have never seen in the past!@! What it has already revealed to me about my own life has been startling.
While reading your piece and seeing that you have caught a glimpse of this, I was hit with the scriptures in Revelation that talk about those "singing a new song." Wow - is this what the scripture is talking about? I just asked the Lord today to reveal exactly what the new song was!!!
WOW, not to take away from being on the exact same page as you describe, being so close and probably on top of the end,
I have to say thinking I pre-existed and I was part of the third thrown out of heaven makes me feel horrible and takes me by surprise.
I heard we were spirits once and came into these bodies to get back the thrown out ones. And the effort is hindered because of the past human sacrifices and the abortions going on, but did not realize or hear before we were all the fallen angels, wow I can see GRACE is more wonderful again today. Thanks JRed for continuing to write, is this where "we will be known as we were known" bible verse comes in?
I was looking today at the same information by Mr. Heron, I am getting the heby jebies about all of this and really ready to go, even if there is some misery along the way I can almost imagine we will soon be in New Jerusalem.
Well, I spent a good part of today at Angelfall.com and while some of it is interesting, my spirit was troubled by alot of what he says. I still don't get his science of Theomatics. It sounds very new agey and he appears to be using the Word of God to advance his own branded version of it.
Great post ! I wanted to tell you to go on over to David Flynn's site and check out the forum b/c there are quite a few extremely knowledgeable people there who have an extraordinary comprehension and articulation of gematria. You can view all posts w/o joining. Soooo having said that....gee, JRed, I am stunned, mouth agape right now. I have the same strange ,lost my stomach feeling I had when I first started studying and understanding about nephilim and Nazis, the true origins and history of America,UFO's, to name just a few.I am going to ck. out the angelfall site, but as of this writing I cannot say I am from any angels that fell.I mean, I am created in the image and likeness of God, not an angel. But, I am sure, in and of my God so I have no fear to be challenged with new info. or revelation. I actually like to be confronted with truth and He always leads and guides us ( believer's ) so no problema. I sense no check in my spirit, but as you said I am sure there will be considerable flurry with the comments ! I will also be quite interested to see what others' have to say about all of this ! This is most likely your most controversial writing to date( these 2 added comments ) !!! What else can I say but here we go .....
KTF, Heather
Jeff,
I wish to say that your posts DOES NOT put fear. If your articles put fear on people, Bible does too. I think all your articles are based on what Bible says us. But as you've been written, we have Jesus. Jesus is above all this creatures, nephilims and what else could appear in these days. We have the son of man who will reign forever and ever. And Jesus promised us that we (christians) will judge the angels including the nephilims. I think they (nephilims) have to fear us. Halleluiah...
Back when the Bible Code first came out, I found the concept to be so fascinating, I mean, it just had such an allure that I bought the book with the intention of really studying it out. I began reading but then threw it out, because the Holy Spirit clearly warned me not to go any further. Maybe some people can study Bible Codes, but I was not to do it. For me, the Bible Code was a misuse of the Bible, in fact, it was a form of witchcraft. As I asked the Holy Spirit for further clarification, He pointed out Deu 29:29, "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law." He also pointed out that none of the first church Christians, the writers of the Bible, used hidden codes, to explain their New Testament understanding of Old Testament principles. Nor did Jesus. That is not to discount numbers. As Bullinger has noted in his masterful work "Numbers in Scripture" the use of numbers and quantities certainly has meaning, and is worth studying. Hidden Bible Codes, however, are not simple number study, it is witchcraft cleverly disguised as elitist knowledge. Bible Codes are a misuse of the Bible...and theomatics, unfortunately, hits me the same way. The work you quoted in comments 1 and 2 seem like Mormon doctrine, and as you likely already know, Mormonism is "the roar of the lion roaming about seeking whom he might devour." Please be very careful as you look into these things.
1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.
This is not an easy verse to follow in these dark days. I find myself so thankful for the body of Christ to help me as I think through hard issues such as the one you have addressed today. God bless you, dear brother, as you wrestle through these things. I will be interested to hear the end of the matter as God brings you the light you need to come to a conclusion. Amy
Jeff, just one additional thought. I am, personally, really careful about anything that hits me with the force of a lust. That would include doctrines, preachers, acquaintances especially of the opposite sex, etc. That feeling of intense attraction is usually not of God. Jesus was not attractive to people until after He got a reputation for being a miracle worker when the people began to think of Him, falsly, in terms of leading a political revolution. When they learned the truth, they crucified Him because people don't crave the ordinary. They want to follow the exceptional, the stand out King Saul types that seem to know things that we don't know.
The Bible teaches us that Jesus was to all appearances an ordinary looking man. Not so with Satan. He disguises himself as an angel of light, and craves attention. Because of this, I try to hold back when I encounter anything that hits me with the force of a lust. I don't know if that will be of any help to you as you weigh the things you are learning about angelfall and theomatics, but it can't hurt to go slowly, can it? If it is truly of God, it will stand the test of patience as you pursue testing the spirit behind the theory. As always, you and your family are in my prayers. Amy
I have heard this theory before (concerning us being angel spirits that 'fell' to earth). Here are some obvious problems...
The creation account says at the end of the week "all was VERY GOOD." No I do not believe in any "gap" theory that one must infer is there based on twisting scripture.
The fall did not occur until after day 6-- after the creation of the garden of eden, because, as Ezekiel says, satan was the covering cherub IN THE GARDEN of Eden, and was good at that point (until iniquity was found in him). This means there is no gap and there was no fall of satan or the angels in any time prior to day 6 of creation.
The 1/3 stars that fall down to heaven because the tail of the dragon throws them there?
Read Isa. 9:16- the "prophet that teaches the lies is the tail" This tells us that it is WE who are seated in "heavenly places", sons of Abraham by faith who are "numbered as the stars of heaven", and of whom, 1/3 will "fall away" because they believe the LIE of false prophets instead of coming as meek as a child to loving the Truth.
Lastly, angel means 'messenger'-- if we are those angels, then WHO were we to be messengers TO?
Too many issues with this theory and simply not enough proof. This is an ear-tickling theory -- not truth, imho.
I don't know about Theomatics but will certainly check it out with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I did however sense something extremely prophetic about this latest earthquake and the ensuing tsunami warning. That along with everything else that's going on in this world tells me that we are very, very close to seeing our Saviour face to face and I for one can hardly wait!!
We are in 'Messenger' reform school in the garden of Earth...very interesting and thought provoking post. Never heard of theomatics so thank you for such a bold stand. I'd love to see all the scriptures translated like this but for now I'll keep operating by faith in the annointing of the mission I have been appointed for. When people get off the milk and start to eat meat and know that angels are men who are messengers and that sometimes they appear in white and sometimes not (I suggest read Ezekiel 9 and Ezekiel 44:19 with opened eyes of spiritual understanding).
Remember Gen 18 recordes three men show up... perceived to be men at first glance and then in Gen 19 they are referred to as angels....
Remember Gen 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
Yahushuah-Fathers Salvation
...saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. John 1:51
Some of us are here serving in the Temple Court House that is open...
Heres a study that shows this observation regarding messengers..
A study of the Word From: January 22, 2009 http://littlebookofmichael.blogspot.com/ The really comforting thing about all this evil..And The World Cannot See the Spirit of Truth and The Two Witnesses’s, are many… And The Mary’s(their rebellion), who are so closely connected to it all…
Washington is the man of sin sitting at the pinnacle of the USA Capitol Dome above on the rainbow of a cloud declaring himself as GOD of heaven and Earth surrounded by the pantheon of gods and goddesses with a statue of himself in the lower level-underworld...those of ancient days that have crept in unawares who have been as thieves and robbers getting into heaven/immortality "some other way" illegal, rebellion, war in heaven...John 10 He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Is it any wonder they want to shut us up? Fear not we're in a back to the future little space of time for in reality "it is finished." Stand firm...
PS- once that is understood then it is not so difficult to see that an arch angel is more than one messenger working together...linked by an arch becoming one...Freemasons call it the Arch Degree 7th degree or step with 3 masons in a ritual oath... the descriptions in Ezekiel refer to steps and the Temple...
Starting to see more clearly yet?
Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! And you never know when you are entertaining one...:)
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jeff
as I have tried to show, many things concerning GODS plan are in a triun nature. for example FATHER,SON and HOLY SPIRIT!!! there is an evil mirror to this also.
but concerning the end times, and the people chosen by GOD. the bible states 2/3rds will be cut off, and 1/3rd will be brought through the fire tried and tested to stand amongst the saints with GOD!!!
the 2/3rds cut off are the world government non believers, and all that have bought into their system.
and the apostate churches that have forsaken GOD and JESUS CHRIST!!! and all that have fallen for their system. this includes jews,moslums,budists,corp. christians,satanists and all the other religions of the world!
this is why we are told to come out of her be independent and a peculiar people in the site of GOD!!!
as it is explained throughout GODS WORD, CHRISTIANITY is NOT a religion. it is the truth and reality of GODS existence and the worship of HIS nature and ways!!!
this is some more for you to ponder on, check it out in the WORD,
and see if it is common sense. once it is understood!!!
let the people see how easy your WORD and your WAYS are JESUS!!! if they will only let down their guard, and throw out all the garbage they have been taught by gov. run and controlled corporate christian churches!!!!!!! if it is in your will!!!amen
john
Just wanted to point out that Gematria and Bible codes are really totally different subjects. They are often lumped together as though they were related, when that is not the case. Gematria often provides some fascinating expositional ideas in the Hebrew Bible and explains obscure references to numbers that would not otherwise be explainable.
jeff
there has now been a total of 68 aftershocks in chili with magnitude
5.0 or higher.
this is not the big one! there is going to be a magnitude 10 or higher, these are the ones that the bible warns as the start of the tribulation. this is the lead up to it, and can not mistaken for anything but!
the US will be a target of one of these massive earthquakes! they are not created by man in anyway, they are the work of GOD HIMSELF!!!
JESUS protect your children!!! if it is in your will!!!!!!!amen
john
jred, some or all of us may be from those nephilim but we are fallin because of Adam and Eve's sin not because of those stinking angels rebelling. I wish you would reboot your thinking here. We might have some nephilim blood mixed in there somewhere but that's not the original sin. I've not read that before Adam and Eve in the Garden Eden.
Jeff, I hope you will rein this misunderstanding in very soon. I heard all this while in the new age movement in the 80's. For those that are excited about thinking or wanting to believe they are angels that have been kicked out of heaven, they will enjoy the new movie,'Percy Jackson'. They may also like to believe that they are among, 'demi gods' which are actually nephilim, because they are mixed with human and angelic DNA. We should maybe wonder where the 'humans' came from, since we are all angels now. This is leaving a huge portal for deception to enter. This is by far the most dangerous interpretation I have seen on this website. Yeshua came to earth and became a man - not an angel - to save man - not angels.
Tamra
Jeff,
I believe this idea of our souls being fallen angels is non-Biblical and therefore heresy. It is not edifying to the church in anyway to consider this theory - it changes nothing about the plan of salvation or how we are to live our lives. But considering the "doctrine of demons" is strictly forbidden in the scripture. It appears you are being influenced by an evil spirit - they so want to stop the good work you do! Don't let them.
I feel very bad about this post.
Im afraid of this counting numbers, because it shows a wish to be independent of Him.
..and the whole story about 'us being retries of the fallen' make me afraid.
Our God doenst dabble. He knéw that men would fall. It was His neverfailing and Kings Love, to rescue the creature what was out of Him. It is His honour; and it worries that I read undermining things here.
The very heart of Love is Free Will: our Lord HAS certain laws, yes, be they natural or spiritual;
but the main point is that He chose for US - and desires we choose for Him -
without we try to calculate, devise or by-means-of-witchcraft-
try-to-secure-our-position-in-Him
no...it hurts to read this entire post
Listen dears,please,
I realize that this is apocryph
(as Henoch is), but read the sacred love of man who lost his love and heart to his dear Creator..and how amazing generous He is - even He knows we fell..
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe006.htm
(I knew this, but read it again - Im on the 57chapter now, and its amazing, and no untruth..)
your
Lone
I need BIBLE verses to substantiate us being fallen angels. Then what are demons that possess people? Why is there a distinguishment between us and angels?
Thanks to everyone who took the time to comment on this.
I was afraid that my decision to mention Theomatics would distract from the rest of the info in this piece, which I believe is where we should all be setting our sights in this late hour.
It's my own fault I suppose for not only mentioning Theomatics, but for spending as much time as I did in this post trying to explain it. I think my desire to explain what it's all about for anyone who is new to the concept (much like I was when I came across it over the weekend for the first time) is being misinterpreted as me somehow giving it my "seal of approval" or perhaps even being a proponent of it. For those who are wondering, that's not the case I can assure you.
Like I said, I had seen that number 122 come up in Christian forums in the past, but couldn't remember where I had seen it. When I googled some search terms that's where I ended up so I just wanted to mention how odd I found the whole thing to be within the context of the rest of my study this past weekend (or where I spent most of my time).
Truth be told, outside of the "Synopsis" section of the Angelfall website I haven't spent any more time with the subject at all nor do I feel drawn to it let alone compelled to look at it further at the moment. Again, I hope that helps clear up any misunderstandings and gives you all a better idea of where I currently stand on the issue.
Just like with anything else in this world that is presented as "Christian", we should be wise as serpents and gentle as doves and willing to at least casually explore and familiarize ourselves with such things so that if they are in fact "evil" and a "tool of Satan" then at least we'll know and can warn others from succumbing to such a deception.
Once again, thanks for taking the time to read and comment. It's greatly appreciated as always. God bless you all!
Saved By Grace Through Faith,
Jeff (JRed)
Thank you, JRed. Your last comment/conclusion is a huge relief for me. I really enjoy reading your post and have missed your not getting as much time with your new job. Hope it is going well for you and your family.
Many blessings to you and your family, and may we continue to look up!
Tamra
I had the same feeling about the earthquake in conception and the time 3:34 ..did start at 3:33 a evil conception...anyway glad the city hold up to a 8.8.
Look like the tribulation could have started.
And the antichrist got his powers but have to wait for more events before coming mainstream for real
That song by rihanna saying the wait is over,im glad i pick you,the world waiting for you with hands up....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV0BCDCllHY
Movies too were using time running out. we are near,time for revenge and now they using IT BEGINS...
We dont have to be scared let the pagans and the atheist be scared....we know ,we have been warned and watch over, we gonna get past it.
Have you heard about this?
http://exopoliticsnews.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/giant-ebe-ufos-reported-near-sun-now-visible-with-close-up-image-technology/
Amy - Bible Codes being witchcraft! What! Yes - the Bible Codes are full of scary stuff because God's people refuse to believe that we serve a just God - a God that is both love and judgment. When I started studying it - it scared the living __ out of me - because it said things that were "adverse" to my understanding. But in my case the Holy Spirit would NOT LET me leave it alone. And little by little the Holy Spirit began to reveal the truth in it.
Christians have "blown away" great hints and truth because they don't want to believe that Bush could be evil - that America is heading into destruction and judgment.
The Bible Code was the FIRST to state that the US was Mystery Babylon - years before anyone began to wake up. The Bible Code also talks about the destruction of America, we are the Great Whore - the Mystery Babylon that will (as described in the Bible) be destroyed.
People refused to study what the Bible Code is and how it operates. The Bible Codes are actually warnings from God. Anything in them could have been changed if we as His people would have payed attention to them and understood what our future holds if we don't repent and turn around.
I believe satan is the one that has blinded the eyes of God's people and that it was the influence of satan that has caused God's people to shy away. Keep us in the dark so we can't see what's coming at us.
Jews didn't recognize Jesus when He came to the world and Christians by the thousands can't understand what's happening today because they refused to see the truth in Bible Codes.
The Bible Codes have so many hints - hints I didn't understand 4 or 5 years ago that are now absolutely exploding on the page. It has given me secrets to wisdom that most do not have -- because I chose to go forward and study them even though they appeared scary.
Christians are still running from the truth, because they "can't handle it." They want to go on believing that America is the great - we could never be wrong.
The 144,000 in Revelation that follow Jesus everwhere He goes are those that are willing to embrace the hidden secrets as they are being exposed. The Bible says ALL deception will be exposed in the end days - which we are now living in. Only 144,000 here on the entire earth are seeking the whole truth - our pagan holidays - our worship of our Lord on SUNday - satan's day set up by the church of Rome - instead of the true Sabbath, Saturday. Worshipping God on the Sabbath on His true Holy day, Saturday, is all over the scriptures. Yet not a single church I know of has changed their day of worship even though it is one of the Ten Commandments.
Please know that not all Bible Code interpreters are filled with the Holy Spirit - therefore, their interpretation of what is coming as in Revelation is off.
I am thankful He has given it to us - it is a tool for those that seek His entire truth to use to expose the evil in our day.
Only 144,000 here on the entire earth are seeking the whole truth
Huh? Are you saying there are only 144,000 right now this minute that really know the truth?
Dee
Rev 14:3 "And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women [Shiva-Isis-Diana, and many other names], for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes."
This appears to me to be the "new song" spoken of in Revelation. Gematria.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2010/jimmy34.htm
very good, thanks JRed :)
You are treading on dangerous ground. Not every Christian that reads these blogs is mature. You might be overthrowing the faith of some for which you will give account.
The Bible gives clear teaching that we were made in God's image in the first Adam, a triune being, who had a perfect relationship with the triune God. Adam was not a retread angel. The Bible says God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man BECAME A LIVING SOUL.
We are sinners because Adam died spiritually after sinning and became a two part being. Only through the second Adam -the Lord Jesus Christ's payment by death- can we be 'born again' spiritually by the Holy Spirit and again have a perfect relationship with our triune Creator.
This whole theomatics code paints God as a deceiver and the Bible unreliable as read. It bypasses the Holy Spirit's job to lead us to all truth in the spirit of love. It turns God's Holy word into a puzzle to be 'figured out'.
Is God tricking us into salvation by deception?
This smacks of Gnosticism and is dangerous.
"Keep away from all appearance of evil."
Over the past 10 years or more I have kept a close eye on the sun and the earthquakes. For 10 years or more the north American continent has held anywhere from 2/3 to 3/4 of the total worlds earthquakes of magnitude 2.5 or larger. In the last few days the north American continent has received as low as nearly 1/4 of the worlds earthquakes. When things stop moving in small amounts it's a sure bet there'll be a big one. That's what happened in south America. The sun is also doing some things I have not seen before. There have been many prognostications about the sun. What I'm trying to say is this...10 years from now we could easily be sitting here still waiting, still looking at all these things that are happening on the earth...or...we might be shaken from our chairs as we read this or the very next post. Think about it...are we ready?
You'll be as ready as God's grace permits you to be...(that's why we are not to worry)
Dee
JRed,
Here's an interesting article about earth's days being shortened because of the earthquakes.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/03/02/national/a083122S21.DTL
jred
I must agree this is mostly bunk, and another attempt by lucifer to decieve the masses!!! that being said, there is more truth comeing out of pagan sorces then christian sorces at this time!
like the bible says look at this stuff, decerne it spiritualy with GOD"S WORD! and then move on to more sound doctrin!!!
never develope a fever for things of this world! especialy when it comes to things of numerology, and the worship of numbers!!!
strive to understand GODS WORD, and all the other things will flow to you like LIVING WATERS, you will not have to search them out! the HOLY SPIRIT will unviel them to you in do time!!!
DEAR GOD help us to grap onto YOUR WILL!!! and help us to decerne YOUR WILL from all the other grabage babyl out in the world!!!!!!! if it is in your will!!!amen
john
"Saturday's quake shortened the day by 1.26" from link at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/03/02/national/a083122S21.DTL
or it could be the signature of the beast counterfeiting and hijacking the TRUTH in the scriptures...or the signature of the nine unknown men on the pyramid of the Masonic hierarchy as the numbers add up to 9 and could be divided to 666...
either way birth pains are so close together NOW...before the Wrath to come...
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, [and] so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
For those who believe that the Pretribulation rapture was something new introduced within the past 100 years. Here is one example of how you are mistaken.
Ephraem's Teaching on the Pretribulation Rapture
For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins. (On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World, by Ephraem the Syrian, A.D. 373)
The early Christian writer and poet, Ephraem the Syrian, (A.D. 306 - 373) was a major theologian of the early Byzantine Eastern Church. He was born near Nisbis, in the Roman province of Syria, near present-day Edessa, Turkey. Ephraem's fascinating teaching on the Antichrist has never been published in English until I wrote FINAL WARNING in 1995. Some scholars suggested that this manuscript was written several centuries later (5th or 6th century) but definitely before the birth of Islam in 622. However William Bousset, one of the greatest scholars on ancient eschatology, concluded in his book The Antichrist Legend that it was written by Ephraem the Syrian before A.D. 373.1 Andrew R. Anderson wrote in his book Alexander's Gate that he accepted the early date as being valid.2
This critically important prophecy manuscript from the fourth century of the Church era reveals a very clear statement about the pretribulational return of Christ to take His elect saints home to heaven to escape the coming Tribulation. For additional details read the article Examining an ancient Pre-tribulation Rapture statement on this web site.
1. William Bousset, The Antichrist Legend, trans. A. H. Keane (London: Hutchinson & Co., 1896)
2. Andrew R. Anderson, Alexander's Gate: Gog and Magog and the Enclosed Nations. Monographs of the Mediaeval Academy of America, no. 5. (Cambridge, MA.: Mediaeval Academy of America, 1932)
*The above is an excerpt
JRed - Since reading your article on theomatics I have been reading their material on the web. I intend to order their books and search for more truth in his writings.
What I find great significance in is GEMATRIA and Biblewheel.com; however, some of the statements made on Angelfall.com I do not agree with. Both deal with gematria - however, theomatics appears to use Gematria to underline what the writer sees as absolute truth. While I agree that there is much deeper significance in each of the chapters of Rev than we first saw, the author of this web site appears to debunk all of tribulation.
Some of what he says goes against what the Bible Code has found.
Some of what he says goes against the events as we see unfolding right before our eyes.
I have found that the Lord gives each of us a piece of the puzzle - but not the whole piece.
I find truth in what he is saying (not sure about the angelfall theory yet), but not the whole truth.
There are several web sites that have given me hints that have led me to a greater truth - but I don't find their whole theory to be correct.
I don't have the whole truth and it appears neither does the author of this web site (although he thinks he does).
It is certainly worth reviewing - especially the patterns found with gematria. I think he's found a
new way to study the Bible, but I already have great doubts about what he thinks it all means.
Once again, I have found that the Lord did not give the complete picture to anyone in these last days - just pieces of a huge puzzle we are all piecing together.
I believe that some of us are fallen angels in body form - but I am not convinced we all are. At least - not yet.
You definitely hear from the Holy Spirit - weigh everything and let the Holy Spirit help us all to separate all truth from what is emerging.
By the way - if you do an indepth study of the 144,000 that follow the Lord everywhere He goes, you will get a different conclusion than what this man has come up with! It isn't the standard view, but it isn't this author's view either. A Strongs study in my opinion is far closer to the truth than his summation.
Every time I think "I've got it - I've really got it" I find that I have a piece of it - the full truth is still hanging out there.
I think perhaps that's what is going on here!
I think the real jewel is in the Biblewheel (Biblewheel.com - study of gematria in the scriptures - Ezekiel's wheel within the wheel). I think that's the jewel we are to glean from this!
To Anonymous on 3-6-10 @ 3.43am
You said...
"I have found that the Lord gives each of us a piece of the puzzle - but not the whole piece."
I could not agree with you more!!! I have found morsels of info from students of bible prophecy that are supported by scripture and mind blowing in their seeming revelation, while at the same time finding myself in total disagreement with that individual's other theories, etc. This human tendency of wanting to be convinced of everything someone teaches or dismissing all of it entirely is a big shortcoming in our discernment process I think. Many of us still hold others to standards of perfection that at the same time we acknowledge can't be met.
About the Enceladus issue.
Didn't you show a picture of the titan
Enceladus in France with fountains nearby?
And recently Cassini spacecraft found that Enceladus has water jet "fountains"
How did that get correlated?
Anybody have a idea about that?
Hey,
Admittedly, I haven't read all 49 responses yet. Someone may have mentioned this already, but ...
Hebrews 1:5 - For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my son"?
Hebrews 2:14-16 - Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death - that is, the devil - and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants.
We were made uniquely in God's image. Angels are ministering spirits who worship God and serve humans (among other things). Satan hated this, which is why he turned it around (temporarily) and made humans serve him.
Anyway, God bless. - Britt
I read Dell Washburn's book "Theomatics". It doesn't ring true. Go get your pencil out and add up his figures and way too many are rounded up or down.
I figure if it was truly from Yahweh all the numbers would be perfect!
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